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Old 01-09-2019, 09:08 AM
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Re: possibly laying an egg?

Glad they gave her the Oxytocin injection; typically if that doesn't do it then they have to go in and get it unfortunately, although if they are seeing in the x-rays that the egg isn't fully-formed, then that's a serious issue that Oxytocin may or may not help, as passing a "soft" egg is almost impossible...Sometimes they can "suck it out", and a lot of the time the more experienced and well-trained Avian Reproductive Specialists will actually use a short-acting Isoflurene gas or short-acting nasal-sedation on the bird, and then they will actually use an Endoscope to enter into the Oviduct and they'll rupture the egg while it's still inside the Oviduct, then vacuum it all out. I don't particularly like this method because of the risk of Peritonitis (bad Bacterial infection inside the abdominal cavity), but if they are very good and very experienced they can do it...

***If your bird does have to have the egg surgically removed, it's important that you know it's not the end of the world, and that she'll likely be just fine. Parrots have surgery every day, hundreds of thousands of them do with no problems at all. Obviously the biggest risks for Parrots having surgery, especially the smaller species, are #1) Blood Loss (more of an issue in smaller species than anything else) and then #2) General Anesthesia risk...However, the drug combinations they're using on birds/parrots get better and better literally every few months. They are frantically doing research on improving Anesthesia for the animals that have the largest issues with it, birds/parrots and guinea pigs being the ones that have the largest problems with it. But typically they do just fine for a quick procedure like removing an egg from the Oviduct. It's quick, it's clean (not much blood loss at all), and the recovery time isn't long...

****I highly suggest that you talk to your CAV about putting your bird on hormone treatment to shut-down her reproductive system from this point forward, because once a bird has a problem like this laying an egg, they tend to have problems the rest of their life laying them, and what you don't want is for her to have to be opened-up again in the same place, as the risk gets greater each time they have to operate on a bird for the same thing, and their abdominal-walls become extremely weak if opened-up more than once and they end-up almost always Herniating themselves and then require metal-mesh sutures to literally hold them together because their abdominal-wall muscles/tissue/skin is so friable. Soooooo....I would definitely not want to go through this with her again, and the best way to avoid this is to to "shut it down"!

***I highly recommend the newer Deslorelin implants way, way more than the older, less effective and with more side-effects hormone injections with the "Depot" drugs, such as Lupron or Depot Provera...The older "Depot" hormones tend to not work, they have horrible side-effects in some patients, and there is no way to reverse them if there is a bad side-effect that your bird has, once they get the injection they are going to be stuck with the hormone in their system for 3 months or 6 months, depending on what they were given. I have seen Lupron and ALL of the other "Depot" hormone injections fail many, many times where the bird just kept laying egg after egg after egg, and they also became extremely anxious and aggressive from the injections to-boot...

**In-contrast, the newer Deslorelin implants work almost all the time in almost every bird, causing complete chemical-castration and shutting-down their reproductive systems completely with no ill-effects. And if there is an issue they can simply remove the implant which will reverse the effects. The Deslorelin implants are good for 3 months or 6 months (the 6-month is the one most-often used), they are the size of a millet seed and are basically injected with a syringe just like any other injection (they give your bird a lidocaine injection first to numb her breast or back tissue). The whole thing takes about 5 minutes from start to finish, and then they usually don't become at all hormonal again unless you don't keep them on it. And in 6 months they simply inject another Deslorelin implant, no need to remove the old one, it's absorbed by their body...

Do your research online about both the Deslorelin implants and then also the Depot-injections like Lupron, and do your comparisons, then talk to your CAV about it. You don't want this to happen again obviously...
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