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Old 04-17-2019, 09:17 AM
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Re: Suddenly aggressive GCC

Well let's go back to basics here for a minute...This guy is an adult, mature Green Cheek Conure, and I think a male? (not that the gender matters much in this particular situation anyway)...So you've got an adult GCC who was abandoned by his prior owner (and I'm going to guess just by the way he was left outside of a pet shop that his life up until this point with his first owner wasn't that great, and it's also possible that the owner who abandoned him at the pet shop wasn't even his first owner, he could have been though multiple owners already in his short life, so either way he's got no reason to trust any humans at this point, that much is certain)...And then the OP was "laying in bed" and apparently the bird was in-bed with him...What does that bring into the equation? HORMONES! So then add that he's eating while laying in bed, and the bird ran up to grab the food out of his mouth and instead bit his lip and ran away...So there are a bunch of things going on here, #1 being the bird's total lack of trust of anyone right now, #2 being his sex-hormones being triggered (probably all over the place, we haven't touched on that yet in this thread for the OP, so that's probably a really good idea to do here now), and then #3 let's add food to the equation, and as Noodles mentioned there is always an underlying, natural "drive" for survival that a non-bonded parrot is going to have running in the background (tame, bonded birds have the ability to turn this off with their bonded-owners, it's pretty-much automatic otherwise)...So if we sum-up this entire situation, it comes right down to a non-bonded, non-trusting Green Cheek that has only been with the OP for 3 weeks and who has unfortunately been pushed a little too much and treated like a newly-weaned, hand-raised baby GCC who they just brought home, AND WHO HAS YET TO GO THROUGH PUBERTY...So hitting the "Reset-Button" and starting over completely like today is the first day the OP has brought the bird home, avoiding situations, items, and places that trigger hormonal-behavior, and then just watching the bird's cues and trying to read the bird a lot more closely are all going to start the process of earning his trust and bonding with him all over again...

***As far as using The Shunning-Method on an adult bird who you've not yet earned the trust of, that's exactly why he should be using it to stop the bird biting, because right now the ONLY thing the bird wants from the OP is their ability to provide him a flock to be among, and using the Shunning-Method the correct way is exactly what he should be doing to stop the biting WITHOUT causing any further fear in the bird...The key to that is that the "shunning-period" needs to be only 5 minutes, no less because it won't mean anything to the bird, and no longer because that's when you can basically, for a lack of a better way of putting it, "hurt his feelings" and push him away...The Shunning-Method is not considered to be a punishment or a form of "Negative Reinforcement" at all, but rather a form of "Reverse Positive-Reinforcement", because there are few things you can use to Positively-Reinforce good behaviors in this bird right now, except food and that's it.

***It should be said that we use The Shunning Method in the Avian Rescue on a daily-basis with birds who have just been surrendered and who are biters right off the bat, but who also obviously want attention from people or simply to have people around talking to them (usually the biters who scream when the trainers walk away from their cages and stop when they return are the ones that The Shunning-Method work best on)...They've been using it for as long as I've been there, which is almost 8 and a half years now, and it's works very, very well to not only stop the biting but to also start the taming/trusting humans process...And we're talking parrots who have been through absolute hell and back here, everything from total neglect for years and years, being kept inside of closets for years at a time, and then who have been terribly physically abused by people as well...And The Shunning-Method doesn't ever cause them to show any more fear or to give less trust, just the opposite...Now it's not for all birds, that's for sure. If a bird shows absolutely no want to be near us at all but actually shows the opposite, where they are only happy when no people are even in their sight, then The Shunning-Method isn't going to do a thing to stop biting or anything else, it's going to scare them, piss them off, and usually cause them to bite more...So yes, you absolutely do have to be certain that the bird that is biting is a bird who has shown the want to have people around them, talking to them, and interacting with them before you use The Shunning-Method to try to stop the biting, that's for sure...And in the OP's situation, it's quite obvious that even though this GCC has not yet given his trust to the OP or bonded with the OP, he very much wants to be around/with the OP. So the OP using The Shunning-Method whenever the bird bites him, if he sticks to using it every single time he bites him and he makes sure that he does it correctly by completely ignoring the bird in every way for a full 5-minutes, no shorter and no longer a time period, I'm willing to be that the biting will stop within a week of him using The Shunning-Method...Just as long as the OP uses it every time the bird bites him, it will work and it will not cause the bird any fear or anger towards him at all. (even if that means using it many times right in a row if the bird again bites him directly after the end of a 5 minute shunning-period, and then again, and then again right in a row, because this is where people incorrectly-use The Shunning-Method, they will get bitten, immediately do a 5-minute shunning-period, then the bird comes back to them and bites them again right away, and they fail to immediately do another 5-minute shunning-period, and then another if the bird bites them again right after the second shunning-period, and so on, they have to do it as many times in a row as it takes until the bird does not bite them again directly after a shunning-period...That's where people mess it up typically)...
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