View Single Post
  #6 (permalink)  
Old 05-03-2019, 12:18 PM
EllenD's Avatar
EllenD EllenD is offline
Senior Member
Parrots:
Senegal Parrot named "Kane"; Yellow-Sided Green Cheek Conure named "Bowie"; Blue Quaker Parrot named "Lita Ford"; Cockatiel named "Duff"; 8 American/English Budgie Hybrids; Ringneck Dove named "Dylan"
Join Date: Aug 2016
Location: State College, PA
Thanks: 6,495
Thanked 7,542 Times in 3,076 Posts
EllenD will become famous soon enough
Re: I have a red Lored Amazon

So that above post answers the medical questions, though I can't answer much about the cost of a full Wellness-Exam with a Fecal and routine, baseline Blood-Work, as all Avian Vets seem to have drastically-different costs, but figure for a full Wellness-Exam/Office-Visit fee, a Fecal Gram-Stain and Culture, and then routine, baseline Blood-Work, it's typically around $200 or so. But do the search for your closest CAVs and Avian Specialists, and then call around and ask what their total will be for a full Wellness-Exam and the Fecal and Blood tests, because those are going to be necessary for your Amazon, and I would spend your money on the Blood-Work and Fecal before I spent it on having his beak trimmed, because you mentioned that his beak just continually grows despite you providing him with a cement-perch, Cuttlebone, etc...And that is typically a very common sign that your bird is suffering from Fatty-Liver Disease, the #1 symptom of this is a continually quick-growing, long beak. So you need to get the full Blood-Work done so that you can make the necessary changes to his daily-diet to not only remedy the FLD, but also his nutritional-health in-general, which is probably lacking and has been for a long, long time...

How long have you had your Amazon now? The reason I'm asking this is because you're saying that the cement-perches, Cuttlebones, Avian Mineral-Blocks (if you have one of these already, if not then you should pick one up at Petco/Petsmart ASAP for both his beak and his health), etc. have not been helping to keep his beak trim, and you also stated that you cannot get him to step-up for you, and I'm wondering how long you've been his owner...This is an extremely important question, along with how old he is (if you know), and also how many owners he has had/was the elderly-man you adopted him from his only owner, how long did he have him, and what is his regular, daily-diet (what is his daily "staple" diet(seed-mix or pellets, and exactly what brand/type of either does he get), how often/how much fresh Veggies, dark, leafy Greens, and Fruit does he get, and what "treats" or treat-foods does he get and how much/how often? If you can answer all of these questions, we can tell you a lot more about what might be going on with his overall-health, what changes you need to make to his diet ASAP to improve his overall-health and well-being and help to remedy the beak issue, and it will also allow us to give better advice about the stepping-up issue and other behavioral issues...

Parrots are extremely intelligent creatures, with the intelligence of a 3-4 year-old human child. They use logic and reasoning skills, and they have better memories than us. So depending on your Amazon's age, his history as far as ownership, routines and time spent with him, his daily-diet, etc., there are changes that you can make immediately and then also changes that you'll need to make gradually over-time to improve not only his overall health, but your relationship/bond with him...So we need a little more information about him and your time/life with him so-far to help you in a educated, informed way...But typically the beak-issue you're describing is almost always due to a daily-diet that is way too high in fat and too low in protein, and typically is an all-seed diet; more-importantly it's typically an all-seed diet of a seed-mix that is very "junky" and contains ingredients such as Sunflower Seeds, Nuts, and Dried Corn Kernels or pieces...These 3 ingredients are extremely high in fat, low in protein, low in vitamins, minerals, amino acids, etc., and provide little nutritional-value to them, and are just used as "fillers" by the bird food companies...Sunflower Seeds of any kind should ONLY be very occasional treats, or even just used as the bird's "Training-Treat" if they really love them and that's it...Nuts should also not be a part of your bird's regular, daily staple-diet, as all Nuts contain tons of fat (oils), more-so than any other ingredient in seed-mixes...And while the healthier Nuts make very good occasional treats or your bird's Training-Treat, such as Almonds, Brazil Nuts, Filberts, Walnuts, Pecans, Pine-Nuts, etc., your bird should NEVER BE FED ANY PEANUTS, NOT EVEN AS TREATS, as they all carry a certain type of mold which is toxic to birds....And as far as pieces or kernels of Dried Corn go, they serve absolutely no purpose at all in a bird's diet except to be a "filler"; if you want to give your bird some fresh Corn-on-the-Cob once in a while when you make it for yourself, that's an awesome treat, they love it, and at least the fresh Corn-on-the-Cob presents a bit of nutritional-value...But Dried Corn Kernels/Pieces that are found in cheaper, junky seed-mixes serve no purpose and are nothing but empty calories and tons of fat.

And seed-mixes are not all bad, there are a few parrot seed-mixes that are extremely high in protein, low in fat, high in vitamins, minerals, amino acids, etc., and provide your parrot with the roughage that their GI TRacts were designed to digest, as well as providing your bird with some active-foraging time...It's all about what seed-mix you feed them, just like it's all about what pellet you feed the, because fruit-flavored pellets are ALL full of tons of added sugars, which are turned into fat and stored in their livers, just like the fat from the seed-mixes...And some people will say things like "All birds need to have Nuts be a part of their regular diets like they eat in the wild", or "They eat tons of Sunflower Seeds in the wild", etc....But the fact of the matter is that we're talking about PET/CAPTIVE parrots/birds that hardly fly at all or get much exercise at all, and that have a bowl of nutrient-dense food 3 steps away from them at all times,, not Wild Parrots/Birds who fly 8-10 miles EVERY DAY searching for enough food to meet their nutritional needs! That's the difference...

***So if you can fill in the blanks on the questions I asked about your Amazon, we can give you some more advice regarding the behavioral issues...You have to remember/keep in-mind that if you've only had your Amazon for a short period of time, then this is typically the reason/explanation for most of these problems or hesitations that your bird is having about hands-on interaction with you, like stepping-up for you.
__________________
"Dance Like Nobody's Watching".
Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to EllenD For This Useful Post:
Georgany (05-06-2019)