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Old 07-10-2020, 06:22 PM
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Re: Pretty playing with foil

Quote: Originally Posted by DestinyCall View Post
Unless it is actually doing something bad to the milk, I don't really see the problem. All the research I've done indicates that solid Teflon is inert and non-toxic. It only becomes hazardous when heated to extreme temperatures.

Fortunately, many manufacturers are moving away from using non-stick coatings that contain perfluorooctonoic acid (PFOA), the compound responsible for Teflon's bad reputation. In fact, it has not been used in brand name Teflon products since 2015. In addition to killing birds, it is also a suspected carcinogen and reproductive toxin. Good riddance!

PFOA is DEFINITELY not the only chemical tied to bird deaths/Teflon....Silicone can even kill birds when heated. PTFE and PFCs....PTFE and PFOA are differentiated repeatedly (although related)...and PTFE actually appears to be the more dangerous of the 2.

"Firstly, what is Teflon, PTFE and PFOA?

Teflon is the brand name for a plastic product called polytetrafluoroethylene (PTFE).
PFOA (Perfluorooctanoic Acid) is another chemical that is used in the process of making PTFE. It is NOT the same as PTFE."


PTFE poisoning is listed on all sorts of veterinary websites etc...so don't assume Teflon is safe....
The EPA decided that PFOA was a toxic substance...after like 82 years of allowing it....BUT, Teflon etc still has bird warnings due to PTFE.

Also, the "research" out there that talks about safe temperatures is often funded by the companies making this junk and there have been numerous bird deaths in documented within veterinary/academic/zoological settings within the 300-400 F temperature range...so don't depend on the numbers DuPont gives...

Last edited by noodles123; 07-10-2020 at 07:42 PM.
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