My alexander 8 months parrot not taking

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I'm new to this forum I do have eight months old parrot which was doing lots of voices and speaking one or two words also but after clipping the wings bird suddenly stopped making noise. Also let me know the gender of my bird image is attached. Pls guide me
 

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Hello,

I would say that is a male, I'm about 50.09% sure about it! Obviously far too early to have a ring and the 'ghost ring' can appear on males and females until maturity. The only reason I'm guessing male is the shape of the head. I think it looks stocky enough to be a boy, but that's about as unscientific as it gets!

I don't agree with wing clipping at all. So I'm more likely to blame a negative change of behaviour on that than others who don't share my views.

Perhaps he is stressed or scared and doesn't feel it's safe enough to make sounds because he's now feeling vulnerable because his flight has been effected?

If we understand talking/mimicking as an attempt to bond with you, then maybe he doesn't want to do this at the moment? I'm not saying I think he will "blame" you for clipping his wings, but he might not feel that it's his choice to interact with you anymore so he's not seeking out contact with you.

Did you clip his wings to 'tame' him? I feel parrots can develop 'learned helplessness' in this situation and they appear to be docile and tame, but actually they just don't have any other options. Having said this, he will probably start making the noises again with a little time.

I know I'm being very negative, but this is a hot topic for me and I want to make my bias very clear! I'm sure others will give a more balanced view.
 

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Actually, my experience with asiatics has been that they often react very negatively to clipping, often becoming biters and/or screamers, pluckers, etc if their first clip is not handled properly. Of course most people just clip the feathers to the length they want them all at once. I however encourage people to clip only one feather at a time on each wing (so that the wings are always even) every few days to give the bird time to adjust to the first clip.

Losing the ability to fly rocks the world of a baby bird. Imagine if your only means of safety and transportation was suddenly removed without warning or explanation, and your own body no longer did what you needed it to. Wouldn't that stress you out? Especially if it happened to you as a child?

Your bird is traumatized, stressed, and unsure about safety. Chattering/talking is something that COMFORTABLE birds do when they are relaxed. It will take some time (perhaps many months, perhaps only a few days ) for your bird to recover from this shock and feel safe and comfortable again.

I'm not saying clipping is always wrong, but I first clip handled incorrectly can be devastating. In the mean time your bird needs lots of love and encouragement and stability in his life to help him regain his confidence.


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for gender either wait another year to see if the ring appears or you have to DNA test them. It's just not possible to tell when glancing (Ekkies are the only exception I know to this)

Like others have said it definitely is related to clipping. Honestly unless they are constantly crashing into things don't bother clipping. I feel it's wrong to clip for taming purposes as it removes the "flight" from the "fight or flight" response and like Silversage said alexandrines can and often react badly to being clipped. The quietness will be caused by knowing they cannot fly so they're trying to not get attention.

Let the wings grow out when the new ones come in and leave them flighted, they'll be fine
 
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Male or female kindly help me
 

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Best advice? Give your parrot, boy or girl, all the love and attention you and family can. Talking , singing or not. And lots of treats to reward positive, good things.
 
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Sir pls guide whether my bird is male or female
 

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how old is your bird? You won't know until the 2 year mark when a ring would form if a male. If a female there will never be a ring

the only way to tell beforehand is to get a dna test done

remember we're not paid to be on here and answer questions and we are not vets. We're just owners of parrots who like to offer advice to people
 

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You will need to get a DNA test or wait until your bird is 2-3 years old


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