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Old 08-01-2019, 10:12 AM
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Re: My new Alexandrine -- Alex, 5 days at home, 2 months old...

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Sorry, I can't see the video because I don't want to download the app I need to view it!

I strongly disagree with the advice regarding seed that you have been given unless it is just while he is so young and growing? I am very surprised an experienced store would tell you that. Seeds are very high in fat. Most parrots will love them, but it is like me eating crisps and chocolate all day, I love it, but it's not good for me at all! Alexandrines are usually very food motivated and do get fat easily. I have lost a 13 year old parrot that should have lived into at least her 50's because she was on a seed diet her whole life. We had her for about 2 years before she became ill, we tried to change her diet as soon as the vet explained how bad it was, but it was too late and she didn't survive the illness.

I'm sorry, I don't think that is a good food. It's for budgerigars which can tolerate a far higher seed diet than larger parrots and eat a lot of millet. Although he is small his food intake is more similar to a large parrot than a budgerigar.
I see so I need ask in a store for veg/fruit based food, right?
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Re: My new Alexandrine -- Alex, 5 days at home, 2 months old...

Everyone, the OP lives in Tbilisi, Georgia (that would be in Asia, not the US), where the availability of pellets, CAVs (specialist bird vet) and proper toys is probably almost nil. If he's taking advice from a University animal department, then that's about as good as it gets.

It's OK for the bird to have seeds, but it would be far, far better if you gave him a diet based more on vegetables and edible flowers. In some places, you can buy special pellets that are designed to have everything in them that a bird needs. I am luckily able to get these pellets, but I know a lot of people in my country cannot. Believe it or not, plenty of birds can and do survive on an all-seed diet. Even though we know it's not the best thing, sometimes it's the only thing an owner can get!

Your bird is very, very young. In fact, he's probably too young to have been taken from his parents and may take some time before he learns to feed properly and to trust you. We can try to help you by answering your questions, but if he does get sick, what will you do?

I hope you will be able to find a much bigger cage for your bird. The one you have him in is likely to cause him to go a bit mad (just as you would if you were trapped in a tiny room). Alexes need a cage at least a metre high and wider than that if you can get one. My own cages are 2m x 2m x 1m, just as an example.

If a larger cage is not possible, then maybe you could allow the bird to be free in a smaller room in your house? It's easy to make an area just for him. You can make a perch from a piece of tree or hang ropes and poles for him to sit and climb on. If you keep your bird in that tiny cage forever, he will not do well. It might be OK for now while he's small, but an adult Alex would go quickly mad in such a tiny home.

I've just watched the first of the videos you posted (the other two have no picture). Your little bird looks quite fine and is very beautiful. I can't see anything odd in his breathing or the way he's perched, but he does look a bit stressed. Try keeping your voice low and soft, but speak to him all the time just as you're doing. He'll get to know you and hopefully begin to like you soon.

It's good that you're asking questions. We'll all help as much as we can. For now, I'd suggest you find out which vegetables your bird likes to eat (don't give him avocado - it's poisonous) and maybe offer him some tiny pieces of peanuts or cooked egg. My Alexes like the seed heads from the grass that grows in my garden.
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Re: My new Alexandrine -- Alex, 5 days at home, 2 months old...

I got here a proposal for $70 to get a custom designed cage
Size:

Wideness 80см
Depth 70см
Hight 65 см

Would it be bearable size?

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Bigger would be better.
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Re: My new Alexandrine -- Alex, 5 days at home, 2 months old...

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Bigger would be better.
I would say, if asking your opinion for smallest bearable size, which one would it be?
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Re: My new Alexandrine -- Alex, 5 days at home, 2 months old...

Did you see my earlier post?

I reckon you need a cage at *least* a metre in width and a metre tall. Most people use cages a metre wide and two metres tall. My cages are two metres wide and I find that gives my birds the chance to fly from perch to perch. This helps them use up the energy they get from the small amount of seed in their diet.

I know it's hard to find larger cages and they can be expensive, but honestly I've seen so many birds sicken and die in small cages. If you can't get a much larger cage, then maybe your bird can spend most of his time outside of his cage? Of course, you need to tame him first so you can handle him and teach him to stay in his place.

It doesn't matter for now, since your bird is new and it will take him a few weeks to settle in. Once he begins to explore his cage, though, and clearly wants to move (flapping his wings and climbing about the cage) - then that is the time you should try to get a much bigger cage OR allow him out for most of the day.

Thank you for being so interested and careful to find out what's good for your bird. You are a good owner!
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Re: My new Alexandrine -- Alex, 5 days at home, 2 months old...

Quote: Originally Posted by Betrisher View Post
Did you see my earlier post?

I reckon you need a cage at *least* a metre in width and a metre tall. Most people use cages a metre wide and two metres tall. My cages are two metres wide and I find that gives my birds the chance to fly from perch to perch. This helps them use up the energy they get from the small amount of seed in their diet.

I know it's hard to find larger cages and they can be expensive, but honestly I've seen so many birds sicken and die in small cages. If you can't get a much larger cage, then maybe your bird can spend most of his time outside of his cage? Of course, you need to tame him first so you can handle him and teach him to stay in his place.

It doesn't matter for now, since your bird is new and it will take him a few weeks to settle in. Once he begins to explore his cage, though, and clearly wants to move (flapping his wings and climbing about the cage) - then that is the time you should try to get a much bigger cage OR allow him out for most of the day.

Thank you for being so interested and careful to find out what's good for your bird. You are a good owner!

Very helpful indeed <3 you guys are amazing community.

Here are doubts:
1. Of course I would love giving him more time outside, but surely, only once he is ready for it, otherwise its a risk for him of doing crazy things like rush into a wall...
2. As for the cage, lets say I won't be able to figure out 1 meter x 1 meter cage here, how feasible would be for him something around 36 inch х 30 inch х 28 inch ? it will be feasable at all?

Thank you so much!
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Re: My new Alexandrine -- Alex, 5 days at home, 2 months old...

OK - Good news. I am going to get something very close to the minimum suggested here above by the dear member.

Cage will be custom designed / custom made for me by a professional cages builder here in Tbilisi.

Size will be 90cm x 90cm x 70cm so almost 1 meter on 1 meter.

Should be good I believe!
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Re: My new Alexandrine -- Alex, 5 days at home, 2 months old...

Oh that's great news! Yes, a cage that size should work well for you and your bird.

I didn't mean you should allow him to spend a lot of time out of his cage yet. I meant you would wait until he is tamed and ready to play with you. At that point, he should be quite happy to sit on the back of a chair or on top of his cage for much of the day.

Today, I spent a few hours fixing the toys in my Alex's cage. They chew everything and it takes a lot of work to keep them busy. Today, I threw out their old rope and put some new rope in. I fixed their long ladder (2m long, it hangs from the roof and touches the floor) and I repaired the boing (spiral perch covered with rope). They were very happy when I'd finished!
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Re: My new Alexandrine -- Alex, 5 days at home, 2 months old...

Quote: Originally Posted by Betrisher View Post
Oh that's great news! Yes, a cage that size should work well for you and your bird.

I didn't mean you should allow him to spend a lot of time out of his cage yet. I meant you would wait until he is tamed and ready to play with you. At that point, he should be quite happy to sit on the back of a chair or on top of his cage for much of the day.

Today, I spent a few hours fixing the toys in my Alex's cage. They chew everything and it takes a lot of work to keep them busy. Today, I threw out their old rope and put some new rope in. I fixed their long ladder (2m long, it hangs from the roof and touches the floor) and I repaired the boing (spiral perch covered with rope). They were very happy when I'd finished!
Glad to hear I made the right choice for the cage, he expected to build it by next Tuesday ) should be a long term solution!

Happy to hear you had a chance to fix up yours
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