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Old 02-21-2012, 07:31 PM
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I think he is obese

I was looking up the average weights for an Orange wing and it said 340 grams which is under a pound.Another site said 350-600 grams, which seems a bit more reasonable to me(but what do I know).
I swear Paco must be 2lbs easy.I need to build a little perch and weigh him...He is really heavy and rather pear shaped.I havent had the nerve to feel around on him yet..He flys okay, he can make it across our kitchen into the den but never really attains any height and I doubt he could fly much farther.
I ordered the Zupreem in the nasty colors(he is used to some kind of round colored pellet) and I ordered some Harrisons high potency as well.Ive never tried the Harrisons.I use Zupreem natural.I figure I just need him eating something reasonably healthy.He picks around at his veggies but does eat them well.
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Old 02-21-2012, 07:33 PM
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Re: I think he is obese

LoL, does he have chunky cheeks? I love chunky cheeks. I bought a scale for birds off amazon.com, it was like 50 dollars or less.. it has a T perch, and works really well.
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Old 02-21-2012, 07:38 PM
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Re: I think he is obese

It's possible! Bleu is overweight... he's almost 300 grams... poor baby was fed cheese daily though... Zupreem isn't really a terrible diet, my vet had recommended roudybush (which he is on now) but says that a zupreem diet with plenty of veggies and fruits works well too. My vet said Bleu needs more "cardio" lol The only thing I imagine with that is his little feet pattering along on a mini treadmill, with a sweat band around his head! XD try playing games with Paco too, like the kind where he has to chase you and he gets a treat (healthy treat) when he catches you. Bleu likes to play tag! but only when he gets to be "It" lol
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Old 02-21-2012, 07:44 PM
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Re: I think he is obese

I'd carry him to the avian vet and get a professional opinion.What a book says they should weigh is worthless.Most of my adult OWAs weigh 360-400 grams.None of them are over weight. Harrissons Hi Po is something i would feed a breeder bird or a free flighted pet.I would try and keep the crude fat under 5% and 4% would be better, stay away from 7%-9% stuff. IMO
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Re: I think he is obese

Actually...most amazons are obese! And yes, they are pear shaped. They seem to have kind of small heads and huge thighs like a chicken. Or they are shaped much different than conures, which you are used to, and I was as well. Pete's thighs and feet amazed me at first.

My vet said Pete has some little fat rolls and is mildly obese. He weighs 525gm. I highly doubt Paco is 2lbs, but he may very well be one pound or a little more. But, a bird his size sitting on your arm does feel much heavier than it actually is.

All you can do is what you're doing. Put him on a better diet, and give him a bigger cage, and try to encourage him to exercise. When I sing to Pete he will climb all over. He climbs a lot out of his cage, too. And his food and water dishes are in a place where he has to climb to get to them.
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Old 02-21-2012, 08:17 PM
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Re: I think he is obese

IDK he is really heavy.I know they fed him alot of cheese too.He had a half slice of American in his bowl when I brought him home.Ive got a really nice digital postal scale.He would go nowhere near it though.I tried putting a folded towel on top to make it less scary but he still wouldnt step on it..LOL
I promise I will get him to the vet but its not easy and make take a week or two to get accomplished, I dont have a carrier for him and its a long drive.
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Re: I think he is obese

Maybe build a little perch for him to sit on on top of the scale. Merlin won't get on a scale either and she is generally quite cooperative. But, if the scale doesn't zero out for the perch, you will have to subtract the weight of the perch.

Merlin is 487 gm and she feels like a load to me as well. I either have to switch arms frequently when I hold them, or sit down and let them cuddle against my shirt or sit on my lap. At the vet's today she got onto my upper arm. I finally said, "Merlin, I can't hold my arm out to the side forever, honey. You need to come down from there."
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Re: I think he is obese

Ok, curiosity got to me and I had to know how many grams 1lb was, lol! One pound is approximately 454 grams. So both my Grey and amazon weigh more than 1lb. That still puts my zon though at less than 1 1/4lbs.

But, this is the weight break down on my birds:

Rowdy: 139gm
Merlin: 487gm yesterday
Pete: 525gm

Your little Greenie is probably around 65gm, so less than half of what my Nanday weighs. An amazon would feel like a huge load compared to the little one. To me, Rowdy feels like hardly anything.
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Re: I think he is obese

I purchased a kitchen weight scale that has a cover you can remove and put in the dishwasher ($30) and then had a local bird shop make a perch stand for it.

My orange wing amazon appears much larger than my other amazon. The orange wing (MC) weighs 352 - the blue front (Secret) amazon weighs 338.

A vet last week suggested that parrots should be weighed 3 times a week at about the same time. I thought that was a bit excessive - but I'm new at birds.

How much variance in weight should I expect to see out of weighing the birds (they are already going up and down in weight) and when do we need to get concerned?
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Old 02-22-2012, 04:14 PM
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Re: I think he is obese

The best thing to do is weigh your bird first thing in the AM before he eats.If new bird 3 times a week is about right.10% changes are common but your looking for a trend,gaining weight,losing weight. 352 is about right for OWA but it depends on the bird,some are bigger,some smaller.Get your vet to gauge if he's over /under weight by feeling his breast.If your bird is clipped ,i'd keep to the lower crude fat pellets, not the Hi Pro.
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