Hot Three Females and Buying a Baby!

outdoors1987

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I had a couple of things so decided to use just one post. :p What are people's experiences with the "hot 3" females? And also, what are peoples opinions on having a random (but sexed) baby shipped to you, as opposed to visiting the breeder and letting the bird "pick you"? Is an Amazon that picks you more likely to stay bonded to you and not change allegiance once it gets home and meets other people? Thanks!
 

roxynoodle

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Well, I've had both experiences, although not just with amazons. My conure chose me, and came into my home like she had always lived here.

Pete was not immediately thrilled with me, but decided after just 2 days to start making friends. The first 2 days though he was actually growling at me.

I didn't even meet Merlin and she was shipped to me. She just loved me immediately.
 

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Not to sure what you mean by hot 3 females???

I have had babies freighted to me with out a problem. However i do notice a difference when a male had hand reared the chick. Being female i have to work with it just a little bit harder but at the end of the day i really think it's what you put into your new baby as to how it reacts to you. However i think it all depends on how social the baby is.

As Roxy has said each of her birds have been different. You can work with what you get & there is so much free help out there. I don't care to much what the bird is like when it arrives, when or if a problem arises I then tend to it.
 

IcyWolf

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Correct me if I'm wrong but I believe they are referring to the hot 3 amazons, blue fronts, YN and YH's. The males of these three species are known to have a particularly hot temper in breeding season.
 

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My experience with hot three females has been excellent. My favorite bird is a hot 3 female. She's got a little bit of attitude, but its not major aggression. Females can vary with some being more aggressive. My Diva is very laid back for an amazon. Her mother who I originally got as a 13 year old adult had a little more attitude. Ellie sometimes bites me if the dog sticks her nose too close, or if she is standing on me and doesn't like the way another bird is looking at her. The classic female amazon bite situation isn't really directed at the owner. Its directed at someone else, but the owner is closest, so they will use our flesh as a demonstration to another person or animal. Females can be nasty and down right dangerous toward other birds.
My male napes have been a little less aggressive toward other birds, but more territorial and more prone periods of general outrageous aggression at maturity. So far I have not had a female experience major aggression at maturity. Just as with any bird, the girls will grow up and get more opinionated. But I haven't seen anything that I would call strictly hormonal aggression.

I can't speak to birds switching favorites. I think any bird can do that, but I'm single, so mine don't have a choice. Regarding shipping vs. visiting, I think the connection experienced when the bird first picks you tends to be more on the human end than the bird's end. I've had outstanding relationships with birds that I've had shipped and that I've had to work for. Sometimes when you ship a bird, they are disoriented, a little defensive and you don't know what your getting, so your less confident. Then if the bird doesn't step out of the carrier and act sweet as pie, doubt tends to creep into the new owners brain and fester. If your willing to work with the bird and build the relationship, long term I don't see a difference in visiting first or shipping. Short term, if you visit first, your likely to be a little more confident in your handling abilities, and you'll know what kind of handling works with that bird. Its still might be defensive or scared when you take it to a new home, but the owner tends to be a little more confident and likely to stick with it. Especially if they believe the bird picked them.
Thats just my experience. I've shipped a few babies and all but one really liked the bird. Although a couple said they had to go slow. One person felt the bird didn't like them and rehomed it. Honestly, I think she could have worked with it, but she was unwilling.
Melissa
 
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Not to sure what you mean by hot 3 females???

I have had babies freighted to me with out a problem. However i do notice a difference when a male had hand reared the chick. Being female i have to work with it just a little bit harder but at the end of the day i really think it's what you put into your new baby as to how it reacts to you. However i think it all depends on how social the baby is.

As Roxy has said each of her birds have been different. You can work with what you get & there is so much free help out there. I don't care to much what the bird is like when it arrives, when or if a problem arises I then tend to it.

I was wondering what "hot 3 females" means also.

Forgive me. Yes, IcyWolf is correct in that I was referring to the BF, DYH, and YN. I only refer to them as that due to several things I've read, most notably What's Wrong With Amazons - Amazons - Joannie Doss. I was curious because the breeders in my immediate area all seem to breed those three the most.
 

roxynoodle

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I was wondering what "hot 3 females" means also. ??
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As IcyWolf posted the Hot 3 are the Blue Fronts, Yellow Napes and Double Yellow Heads.
 

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I haven't sexed our Blue Front, so I'm not sure whether or Yosh is a male or female - we just call him a him. We did have him shipped to us and we absolutely love him.

I think the way a bird is weaned and socialized by the breeder is the most important factor in finding a good baby. Yoshi's breeder, for example, was a single male who did a great job weaning him, but before we got him he had never been handled by a female. I've spent hours working with him, and he responds well to me now, but it is very clear he prefers men. Just something to think about depending on your situation.
 
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I had that thought too that if I end up having a bird shipped to me that I should probably make sure that the baby seems to prefer men, since I will be its primary caretaker.
 

Enjru

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Ginger (my female Double Yellow Headed Amazon) is the gentlest, best-behaved, friendliest and most innocent one out of my three pet parrots. Then again, she is only 4 years old, so maybe in the next few years, she will turn into a dominatrix, but I really don't think so...

Every bird has its own personality, though.
 

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I heard that the female Hot 3's are less aggressive.

I have a male DYH who will soon be turning 2 years old (had him DNA'd after I brought him home) I knew what I might be getting into with a hot 3 but had to have him. I've had him since he was 6 weeks old - hand fed him, weaned him, watched him learn to fly,etc.

I have read some real horror stores about the male hot 3's. I hope I have learned enough about his body language to make it thru the difficult times that may be just around the corner.
 

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