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Old 07-03-2012, 01:43 PM
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Help! I am going nuts with this yellow crown

I am almost giving up on this parrot. I purchased a yellow crown Amazon almost three months ago. When I purchased him supposedly he was 4 months old and was being fed using a syringe. I continued feeding him using the syringe with NutriBird (A19) while always leaving food (Zupreem fruit blend and nuts) in the cage. I used to feed him 30ml of food formula 2 times per day. Anyways, the first 1.5 months he looked fine, healthy, active, and even tried to talk. His poop looked healthy as well. At this stage his eyes were still all black.

After that, the following 1.5 months, he started going down hill. I can see attempts at eating the pellets, but it seems like he was crushing them (playing) more than eating them. I read that it is normal for the bird to loose weight when they start eating on their own. Based on this, I start lowering the syringe feeding to 1 or none per day. Honestly, I really wanted him to start eating on his own because I am generally very busy with work. However, he only got worst after that: His feathers did not look as bright and he started loosing weight (you can see and feel his chest bones clearly and he is very very light), and his poop did not look good. Moreover, he is generally weak and not active. When he stands on my finger, it doesn't take a lot for him to fall. I feel his claws and beak do not have strong crushing pressure. I tried to introduce fresh fruits like apples, grapes, and bananas 3 weeks ago and he started munching on them like crazy. So now, I always have pellets, fresh water, fresh fruits, and nuts in his cage at all times, in addition to 2 feedings of 30ml food formula. After two weeks however, he stopped eating them as much as before (maybe bored) and his condition did not improve. At this stage his eyes are showing a faded yellow ring.

I am so desperate that I started chewing his pellet food and feeding him from my mouth - which he seems to accept gladly. I have been doing this for the past two days but I can only feed him at night and it generally takes up to 30 mins for him to stop accepting food. This is obviously not a solution I can maintain and it is painful when he chews my lips in the process.

I need help or I am afraid he will die. Thanks for reading everything thus far and I appreciate any advice that can help me.

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Old 07-03-2012, 01:52 PM
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Re: Help! I am going nuts with this yellow crown

Stop chewing his food now, you will kill him! Humans have bacteria in their mouths that are fatal to birds so stop doing it!
Weaning birds is time consuming, you can't just stop the formula because you don't have time for it. He was just playing with the pellets because he is a baby and didn't know how to eat them. They mostly eat fresh food while weaning then slowly start to eat more pellets.
Just continue to formula until he refuses it then offer lots of fresh foods 24/7 and pellets so he can he mostly fresh foods. He will eat the fresh foods because they are softer and that is easier to eat. He will soon learn to eat pellets and when he does, stop giving him the colored ones and get the natural ones because the colored ones are too sugary.
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Re: Help! I am going nuts with this yellow crown

Thanks cdog, I did not know that feeding from the mouth is that dangerous, I will stop it. Now, regarding the fruits + formula strategy I was already following that but it did not seem to make him better. In fact, for the past 2 days he barely touched his fruits. I hate how his chest bones are sticking out its like there is a dent. Also, could it be that his condition is related to the lack of exposure to direct sun?
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Old 07-03-2012, 02:05 PM
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Re: Help! I am going nuts with this yellow crown

It sounds like you are due for a vet visit. Also I would suggest purchasing a scale where you can weigh him on a daily basis before he is fed, that way you can keep track of any major gains or losses.
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Old 07-03-2012, 02:17 PM
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You should have a scale, a UVA/UVB bulb on at least 6 hours a day and I would say you should just take him to the vet.
I can't help you as much as a board certified avian vet can so taking him to see one of those is your best bet.
Babies do lose a lot of weight during weaning and their beast bone does stick out a bit but not super bad, that is why you should have a scale because he should only lose about 20% of his weight while weaning.
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Re: Help! I am going nuts with this yellow crown

My advice would be, take him to see a Vet and get him checked over as none of us on here are qualified Vets and we can only offer advice. At 7 Months of age they are not usually still being syringe fed.. He should be fully weaned by now ! I have a YC and she was fully weaned by 12 Weeks old.
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I do not think we have qualified vets for birds in where I reside (country = UAE), they are usually qualified for dogs and cats. I will try this weekend though. Until then, is there anything else I can do? I have only started placing him beside the window recently, is that enough or I still need those UVA/UVB bulbs?
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Re: Help! I am going nuts with this yellow crown

Thanks wenz2712, i also thought he should be weaned by now. Can you recognize the age from the color of the eyes? as I said mine is faded yellow now.
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Re: Help! I am going nuts with this yellow crown

No, windows filter those rays so you have to get the bulb. Make sure you don't put the bulb closer than 12 in and no farther than 36 in.
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Re: Help! I am going nuts with this yellow crown

hey kouma, and welcome to the forum. Try feeding him with a spoon. You can crushand wet his pellets and feed with a spoon.Don't leave them out long because they will spoil quickly.You realy need to get a digital kitchen scale and weigh him every AM before feeding. This will help you monitor his weigh and know better how the weaning process is going. When you do take him to the vet,carry a fresh poop sample in a plastic bag . Get the vet to check for worms. Read some of the older post on weaning or feel free to ask more questions. Several of us have lots of experience hand feeding and weaning zons,so ask away. Look on amazon.com for a book titled,"Parrots,handfeeding and nursery management" by Howard Voren and Rick Jordan. It's pretty much the bible when it comes to handfeeding and weaning. Good Luck and check in with your Avian Vet.
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