normal amazon behavior?

dreamin_sqaw

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Hello everyone. I am hoping someone can help me understand what Sammy is doing. If this is normal for Amazon's. ( if there is such a thing as normal lol )

I was out of town for a couple days this week. I had someone stay in my home so Sammy wouldn't be alone. The last two days he has done something that I don't know how to read.

He has always been clingy and possessive over me. Lord forbid should someone touch me if he is on me. That I have just come to accept. But yesterday, he was sneaky and climbed down off his cage very quietly , instead of flying to the floor which gives me warning he's on the prowl to find me, and there he comes across the livingroom floor. He walked around close by for a couple of minutes then decided it was time for moms attention. I do not allow him to climb furniture. ( read to many horror .stories of destroyed furniture and cabinets ) so I slid off the chair onto the floor with him.
Then I get confused.
He looks like he is gagging , my hand is on the floor and he comes over like he does normally and puts his head down for a scratch. Except when I start to scratch him he's raises his foot to grab my hand ( this. Is normal for him, thank God because that's better than the " I've had enough bite") he gets my hand back to floor, just stands there a second gagging, then presses his beak between my fingers and regurgitated. Not much came out but he did that a couple times. After that he was just content.
Now tonight he does it again, but this time he actually puts my finger into his beak and rubs on my finger with his tongue and does it again. It's almost like he was trying to feed me and push " the food" down my throat with his tongue. I'm very very happy it was my hand and not actually my throat lol.
Is it possible that he thinks he is trying to feed me ?
Is this technique a normal process for Amazon's ? He is very , and I mean extremely, attached to me. Is this related to me being good a few days ? Everything else is the same ole same ole with him. A mommas boy , kinda lazy, eating well, nothing that would make me think he is sick in any way.
This may sound crazy to some of you but remember he is my first amazon so im still learning. Thank yall cause most of my educating is from all of yall here at the forum.
He is super sweet with me and has trained with me perfectly. He trust me for sure. He will let.me do anything to or with him. He has even gotten to the point of laying on his back in my arms like a baby. Started out he would flip over and lay in my lap holding one finger and me scratching his head with the other hand. I didn't teach him that. He just flipped over whole I was holding him one day right outa.the blue. Anyways, I was just hoping someone could help me understand why he is doing the stuff he's doing the last day or so.
I hope I was able to explain in a way you can picture it in your head.
Thanks so much for any feedback.
 

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Yes, the regurgitation is feeding his mate...of course you did consume his offering right away, didn't you ! ! !

Actually though, you really need to dissuade his regurgitating, when he starts the head bob, get up & move away from him or put him back in his cage...if you don't discourage him, he's going to expect more attention than you can offer.....

Also since most parrot species are in a hormonal state right now, you want to limit any touching to just his head/neck scratches.....
 

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Yes that is a normal feeding response. It's a birdie I love you... it doesn't necessarily have to mean "bird mate" issue, but definitely means "I love you."

I get this several times a day from three different birds, including my RLA.

The macaws are the worst offenders, however... both my big macs try and feed me at least twice a day. It's entirely normal.
 
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OK one message to discourage and ignore him. One that its
all OK.
I don't want to completely destroy his natural instincts. But I wanna be sure I under
stand enough to know what I should try to steer him away from if it becomes unhealthy or damaging to him physically or mentally.

I don't believe that just because we bring them into our home we have to change them completely. We bring them in we have to adapt to them on some levels. After all we love them because of what and who they are. If its good enough in the beginning to want a pet that is somewhat exotic because you love the way that breed is...... why change them ?
Sammy didn't ring my doorbell on his own. I invited him in. I want him to be happy with enouginh " supervision" to keep him safe and happy but I certainly don't want to change everything about him. A few habits can go of course lol. But I wanted him for him. I'm not gonna try to change him. Who he is what I wanted.
Thanks for all replies
 

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Zons only have a coiple of ways of reinforcing their bond with their mate. Preening, sex and allo feeding. Allo feeding is his way of showing he can provide (feed) while she, s onthe nest. It's very normal and very common. Even hen birds will try and feed their human mate. It's part of the "bonding"thing. I wouldn't, discourage all of his natural instinct , if you take away allo feeding then sex would be one of the few options left to him. I also wouldn't encourage these behaviors either. Don't make a big deal out of it and it wont be.
 

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Mr Mack does the same thing,but only when the hormones are flowing.i just wipe myself off,and wait 2-3 weeks,and he's his old self. We need to remember we are north of the equator,so the seasons are reversed.
 

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I think all birds do this, it's a sign of affection. We don't exactly 'discourage' it from Kiwi, but we try to encourage other forms of affection more (such as kisses or "preening" our fingers and toes). After many years of kind of ignoring the regurgitating and encouraging other things with praise, we have a bird who loves giving kisses, "preening" fingers/toes and who only regurgitates when really hormonal or if he gets under something (why he feels the need to regurgitate when he gets under furniture of the covers is beyond me but it really seems to set him off and we try to prevent him getting under things:rolleyes:).
 

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Ahh I did not think about the seasons are reversed. I was wondering why they would be like this at the start of Winter. Stupid me LOL

We don't exactly 'discourage' it from Kiwi, but we try to encourage other forms of affection more (such as kisses or "preening" our fingers and toes) ..... I will remember this thanks again
 

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We don't exactly 'discourage' it from Kiwi, but we try to encourage other forms of affection more (such as kisses or "preening" our fingers and toes) ..... I will remember this thanks again

Just a personal take, but birds do pick up on how their "flock" behaves, so by encouraging certain behaviors, it's showing your bird how to act in his or her flock:) We ARE their flock, so they WANT to act in such a way that makes them accepted and loved. Of course you need to give them the option of expressing love and affection, but it can be in a different way than regurgitation and overt sexual displays that we humans find less than pleasant.
 

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Most common pet zons are from north of the equator. All of mine anyway. Breeding season is mostly winter/early spring here in the US. That is also the dry season in the tropics. Cavity nesters ( parrots) need dry conditions or chick might drown. Several conditions are needed before zons will nest . If meet zons will breed. That's why zons can / will breed year round in controlled environments. Like your home.
 
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