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Oh, wow, Mr. Boat... 85-90...
Do you think that would apply to Patagonians? You know a lot of us lowly non-Amazonians read this thread!

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Oh, wow, Mr. Boat... 85-90...
Do you think that would apply to Patagonians? You know a lot of us lowly non-Amazonians read this thread!

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Just read the above thread...


Please know that Patagonian owners can use the vast majority of this Thread for the good Care, loving Understanding and extended Support of the loves of their lives! Use of this Thread is designed to maximize our joy with our Parrot's forever more ....


Happy that you enjoyed that thread as much as I did providing it.

FYI: The temperature range was provided by the AAV and to my understanding applies to all Parrots.

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Hey now, Salty is totally non-political, voted for the green party he did.
The all green party.
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Thanks, Mr. Boat.

Salty voted for the Green Party. Hehehehehehehe!!!!!
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Veterinarians /Medical Care of Amazons
Who is Responsibility for Your Amazon’s Vet Care!

By: Steven (SailBoat), January 2017


This Post starts the five part series of Segments dedicated to the short and long term Medical Care of your Amazon. It is an out growth of the prior Segment that helped define whether your Parrot is ill and/or needs to be seen by its Avian Vet.

Your Amazon’s Vet has seen hundreds, if not a thousand other Clients, since your last visit, a mere one year ago. Why would you believe that they have any memory of your Parrot’s needs? All they have is what is in their Medical File for your Parrot!

Being proactive assures a higher level of Avian Vet Care during each visit. You have fifteen to thirty minutes — make the very best of every second. Be prepared by reviewing your Amazon’s file (you are keeping your own file at home — right?) before your Well-Bird visit. Have a written list of issues /question regarding specific that have arisen since your last visit.

Developing a Detailed Medical File is your responsibility.

Having and providing a Detailed Historical Document is your responsibility!

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FYI: This large group of Posts, start on page 11 with: Signs of Illness in Parrots!

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Veterinarians /Medical Care of Amazons
Developing a Well-bird Historical Document


This Segment will be devoted to developing one part of an in depth Medical File for your Amazon.

Far too many of us do not understand or see the need for regular Avian Veterinarian visitations. This is likely due to the common miss-belief that Parrots do not suffer regular illness like Humans i.e., the common cold, flu, etc., so that there is no real need for regular Avian Veterinarian visits. Too some degree this can be understood. That based on a Companion Parrot that lives indoors 365 days a year, its owner’s do not visit Pet Stores, etc., very limited exposure to other Parrot owners and you and your family do not garden i.e., they live a fairly sanitary live style. Hence, the Companion Parrot is never exposed to the numerous Avian bacterium, viruses, funguses, etc., that are highly common to very rare. So yes, that can be true, but it is also the foundation of a false reality that we, plus the others that enter our home or we come in contact with are covered in a sanitary enclosure and as a result we bring nothing into our homes. Also, UPS, Federal Express, and the UPS never deliver to our home. The access to our homes is truly unlimited.

This Segment is devoted to the Developing a Well-Bird Historical Document, which involves a major effort on the owner’s part. This provides your Amazon’s Avian Veterinarian with knowledge of your Parrot, a foundation. It also provides you a historical document that you can add to over time. Enjoy!

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Continued from the above Post.


Developing a Well-bird Historical Document

By: Steven (SailBoat), January 2017

It is rare that a Parrot owner has a written or better stated, documented history of their Parrot, let alone provided such a document to their Avian Veterinarian. Most owners show-up at a Veterinarian’s office, hopefully an Avian Veterinarian, with a very Sick-Bird and little else. Mid to large Parrots can live a long life. An annual visit to an Avian trained and certified Veterinarian is one way of ensuring that the Parrot will have a healthy life. As part of that yearly visit (more often is recommended), I recommend working with your Avian Veterinarian in developing a detailed Medical File for your Parrot. It will save precious time ‘when’ you’re visit is for a far more serious reason.

Listed below is a guide to the information that will support your Avian Veterinarian’s Medical File. It will provide needed historical information for your Parrot. By providing it in a written, not a verbal form, as part of a new Parrot, Well-Bird examination, will greatly aid in diagnosing ‘when’ you present your Parrot for a Sick-Bird examination. Remember, this information could be essential in aiding a quick diagnosis of your Parrot. Be boldly honest and detailed with your answers, they may save your Parrot’s life.

Origin:

Where did the Parrot come from? Be specific with the Name of the Pet Store, Bird Store, Adoption /Rescue Center, Breeder, or individual (include address and phone number(s) if available). Was the Parrot Wild-Caught, from a U.S. Breeder or not known? Was the Parrot Hand-fed or Parent-raised or shared? How old is the Parrot? Provide a Birth Date, if known. If there is no known record, provide your best estimate (stated as an Estimated Age based on a year). Etc….

Known Medical History:

Include information, which is not in this Veterinarian’s file. Has the Parrot had any previous medical problems, illnesses or prior surgeries? Has the Parrot been tested for TB, Chlamydiosis or other Avian Diseases? Have any blood or diagnostic tests ever been performed? When? Results? DNA or Surgical Sex tested, Etc…. If you have changed Veterinarians, ask the past Veterinarian(s) for a copy of your Parrot’s file. Keep a complete set with your Parrot’s Travel Kit.

Specific Medical Review:

List those items that need to be reviewed as part of each Well-bird /Sick-bird examination, examples being a specific medical problem, illness or prior surgery.

Ownership:

How long has this Parrot been part of your family? Providing an Arrival Date is better then the number of months or years. List prior owners. Be as detail as possible regarding prior ownership (include names, addresses, phone numbers and dates). Is the Parrot a Pet (Companion Parrot) or a Breeder? Are there other Parrots in the household? If so, how many? What kind? Known Medical History of each individual parrot (if not already known by this Avian Veterinarian). What other Pets are in the household? Etc…

Lifestyle:

How much playtime /interaction do you (and others), spend with your Parrot? How much sleep does the Parrot normally get? Is the cage covered at night? Does the Parrot bathe regularly? How often? Is the Parrot confined to a cage, out only when you are home, —or- free to roam (Free Roaming) the house? Does the Parrot receive regular grooming of its beak, wings, and nails? Who performs the grooming and how often? Is the Parrot fully Flighted, a Glider, or Non-Flighted? Egg laying? And if laying, how many, how often and when was the last laying? Etc…

Caging:

Define the type and size of the cage? Type of metal or other materials used in its construction? Is it painted, powder coated, bare metal, and what type metal? What type of cage flooring and covering material(s) used? Cleanliness of cage and how often does it get cleaned? Does the Parrot chew or gnaw on the cage bars? How many perches are in or on the cage? What kind, size and material are they? How many toys are available? What kinds? Where is the cage location in house? Provide the same information on any additional cage(s) (sleeping cage, etc.), play stand(s), tee stand(s) in the house. Does your parrot share its cage with other Parrots? Etc…

Diet:

Type of food offered, and, the type of food actually eaten? Is the food available all day long or part of each day? Appetite? Fickle eater or a food lover? Is water available all day long or part of each day? How regularly is the water changed? What type of water dispenser(s)? Etc…


Your Avian Veterinarian will maintain a weight history (in grams) as part the Medical File. A weekly weight history on a low cost, postage style scale will be happy excepted by your Avian Veterinarian and it is far better then a yearly weight or no history at all. The availability of gram scales, for home use, continues to improve and is common on many Websites. Daily weight history is important with any effort on your part to change your Parrots diet, monitoring a sick Parrot, etc…

It is easy to view this level of detail as over-kill. However, the time spent developing it now will assure it being far more accurate then you’re guessing at details during an ‘emergency’ Sick-bird Veterinarian visit. The combination of an ‘Extensive Medical File’ and the Historical Information (developed here) will provide a solid Medical File for your Parrot.

Anytime, your Avian Veterinarian provides Medication, have them show you with ‘Detail’ how to provide that Medication! Never assume you will figure it out when you get home!!! Always have them show you how!!!

Sources:
The Complete Pet Bird Owner’s Handbook (New Edition), Gary A. Gallerstein D.V.M., www.exoticpetvet.net Avian Section and Vet-to-Vet Section — Avian Topics and www.avianweb.com
Association of Avian Veterinarians, www.aav.org


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FYI: This large group of Posts, start on page 11 with: Signs of Illness in Parrots!

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Veterinarians /Medical Care of Amazons:
Preparing for Your Amazonís First Avian Veterinarian Visit


This Segment is in regards to Preparing for Your Amazonís First Avian Veterinarian Visit, which involves the beginning of developing a strong, well-structured Medial File for your Amazon. This provides your Amazonís Avian Veterinarian with knowledge of your Parrot, a foundation. It also provides you a medical document that you will be adding to over time. Enjoy!
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Continued from the above Post.


Preparing for Your Amazon’s First Avian Veterinarian Visit

By: Steven (SailBoat), January 2017

I have traveled back in time to cut and paste from several of my past articles, and writings gathering points to think about as your Amazon’s first Avian Veterinarian visit approaches.

This first Avian Veterinarian visit, like all first visits are never what you or I would like, but it is part of the stepping stone process, ‘One Step at a Time’ in safely bringing a new Parrot into your home. Prior too, and during this visit is the time to reach back and grab those Parenting Tools and use them! Like a two year-old, toddler - if they catch you worrying, they will get even more stressed and worried!

I believe strongly that a newly arrived Amazon will need a very extensive Medical Examination, including full blood screen testing and a DNA Sex Test as part of that blood test. The Avian Veterinarian will need to also check the Parrot’s stool as part of the testing. Commonly, an Amazon will provide a fresh sample during the Avian Veterinarian visit (mine have always provided such a sample for the Avian Veterinarian). It will be very important to know if your Parrot is a Boy or a Girl. The Diet for a Girl is a little bit different from a Boy and knowing, which you have will allow you to target that difference. In addition, Boys ‘tend’ to have a (sometimes much) more behavior issues during Hormonal Season. Also, remember to get your Parrot’s weight checked, since all future weights will be compared back to this one.

Please take the time to complete the Well-Bird Medical History prior to your scheduled Avian Veterinarian visit. When I first started using this document, my Avian Veterinarian was shocked to get so much information and at first stated that it was not needed, and then fell in love with it and asked for a copy of the original (published as part of this Thread (I Love Amazons), 2016 /2017). She stated that it allowed her to concentrate on specific issues more quickly and was able to spend more time with our Amazon.

I like everything about an Avian Veterinarian who completes a full examination as part of the first, ‘new’ Parrot visit. I have my Avian Veterinarian cut nails quarterly; you may want to consider doing the same. It kept my past Special Needs Amazon (Cleo) and our healthier Amazon (Julio) in front of their Veterinarian on a very regular basis, plus it develops travel skills, social skills, etc… I also use each visit as a knowledge developer for me. I always arrive with my list of questions.

Trimming Wing Feathers:
There is huge debate in the Parrot World regarding keeping a Parrot flightless, as a glider, or a flyer. When there is a subject that is being debated at the upper most levels of the Parrot World, I will always present it that way. In addition, I will tell you my position and provide why I made my choice. If you elect to take a different position, know that I will support your choice.

My position is that unless there is a strong medical reason too the contrary, Special Needs Parrots, Middle Age and Older non-Flyers should not have their wing feathers trimmed. ‘My belief’ is that, this group needs their wing feathers to help prevent them from falling like a stone during a miss-step or fall. Others would say that by trimming their wing feathers, it prevents them from flying into a wall, mirror or window -or- worst, out the door. With this new arrival, my recommendation would be to leave the wing feathers and when you have additional time with your Parrot, plus additional information, make the determination at that time. Understand that your Avian Veterinarian will more then likely be on the other side of this debate. So, it is an issue you should think about prior to the Avian Veterinarian visit. Having said that, I am seeing a rapid change in the Avian Veterinarian field as ever-younger Parrots are presenting with Heart Problems! This reality has ever increasing numbers of Avian Veterinarians rethinking their positions on keeping Parrots Flighted.

NOTE: There has been for years, any number true life accounts of Parrots having their wings feathers trimmed by individuals will no professional training as to correct method and equipment needed to properly trim wing feathers. Never let anyone cut your Parrot’s wings that have not been trained by a Professional Avian Expert! Serous to deadly errors can be made by the untrained!


Nail Trim!
I'm very good at trimming nails. But I never trim my own Amazon's nails. I want to be the one that saves my beloved Amazon from the Avian Veterinarian or their trained Avian Tech. Remember, does this action increase your Parrot’s Trust Bond or hurt it. For most owners it is better to let the Avian Veterinarian handle the trimming the first time around. We can talk about the pros and cons later and the proper tools!

Beak Trim!
If anyone is going to trim a beak it should only be an Avian Veterinarian with the certified knowledge and experience to do it correctly. The Beak is highly sensitive and although strong, it is also very fragile. Your Avian Veterinarian will know if a trim is needed. All good Avian Veterinarians do not trim beaks unless there is a real need for this action! The blood test will tell the Avian Veterinarian a great deal regarding your Amazon's overall health. And, this is true of the Beak's health. In addition, some Avian Veterinarians are beginning to recommend ‘minor’ beak rounding for Parrots that Pluck.

A good Avian Veterinarian and/or their Avian Trained Tech's will handle your Parrot in a manner in which s/he will be controlled (will not thrush about). A few Amazons will scream during the entire event! The majority of Amazons will tuff-it-out until they are returned back - rushing to their owner for comfort and protection! This event maybe be of little or highly stressful for your Parrot and being there to save him is nothing but positive. It is not uncommon for a Parrot to be tired for the next couple of days and it will be best to keep your home quiet and provide lots of comfortable talk.

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NEVER let anyone towel your parrot unless you know that they are an Avian Veterinarian, or an Vet Tech with Avian training. Yes, Parrots have one very sharp Beak and very capable of using it. But other then the structure of the Beak the rest of a parrot is designed very lightly - so they can fly. It is very possible to crush bone structure, apply a little too much force and break a wing, a neck, foot or the rib cage. The process of toweling is an Art that I know most owners can learn, but there are far too many easy ways of moving your Parrot into and out of a carrier, etc., that the need to teach toweling to a first time owner is not an immediate priority. That said, as a part of this first Avian Veterinarian visit, have your Vet teach you the proper method of toweling your Amazon, even if you have been doing it for years!

*Please remember to have the Avian Veterinarian check the condition of your Amazon's feet!


WARNING: There is always the possibility that the examination and/or testing may present health problems. Parrots that have not had regular Avian Veterinarian visits are total unknown with regards to their health. Remember that Parrots are excellent at hiding illness. If your Amazon presents with a health problem beyond what is known, please do not give-up on him. Loving care for Humans and loving care for Parrots provide beyond what Medical Science can even hope too!

NOTE: If health problems present, take detailed notes and ask the Avian Veterinarian to write it down for you. Like with Human Medical Vocabulary - the words get real big, real fast! And, most of us are paying more attention to our Amazons to remember anything in detail!


Regarding the Avian Veterinarian visit. Call before leaving to adjust your arrival time - if the Avian Veterinarian is running early or late. Ask what time you should arrive with your ‘PARROT.’ By reminding the office staff that you have a Parrot will result in them providing an adjusted arrival time. Carry a bottle of water with you and at the Avian Veterinarian's office; ensure that the carrier's bowl has water in it, if needed! As you prepare to leave, dump the water. If the Avian Veterinarian is ready for you and it’s a visit that moves along quickly there maybe no need to supply water. It’s a judgment call, however error on the safe-side by having water! Ensure that you always travel with a bowl for water and a water bottle. Dry food is also important on longer trips.

Anytime, your Avian Veterinarian provides Medication, have them show you with ‘Detail’ how to provide that Medication! Never assume you will figure it out when you get home!!! Always have them show you how!!!


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FYI: This large group of Posts, start on page 11 with: Signs of Illness in Parrots!

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