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-Help, My Amazon is Falling Apart-
Molting and the Effects of Variations in Weather Conditions etc…

By: Steven (SailBoat), 2016

The loss of flight, body and downy feathers is a common, yearly event with all birds. The term for this yearly shedding of feathers is ‘Molting’ and the amount and type of feathers lost through molting will vary from year to year. An Amazon’s feathers are normally replaced over several years, although specific downy and body feathers are shed and replaced more often. This may surprise many since it is a common folklore that birds replace all their feathers each year. Although there are times that it may seem so, it is simply not true with our mid to larger Parrots!

It is important to remember that our North American, Amazons are 180 degrees out-of-phase with their cousins in South America. As Fall sets its stage here in North America, it’s the beginning of Spring in South America. The length of day (amount of Sunlight) is one of the controlling factors in the on-set of our Amazon’s Hormonal Season, which also prepares the stage for molting. Molting is as much a chemical (Hormonal), as it is a physical process. The timing of a molt and, which feathers are molted is affected by several factors, each playing an important role.

Over the years, I have noticed that there exists variations in the point in which molting begins, the extent (volume) of the molted feathers and the length of the molt.

The beginning date with males seems connected to the passing of the starting point of the Hormonal season. The hens tend to be nearer the point in which nest building begins. Resulting from the chemical subtleties involved, there is much debate, however most owners will not notice the molt’s beginning for at least another three-to-six weeks, when the volume increases enough to be noticed by the observant owner.

With the notable difference in the length of day, and more importantly, the number of sunny days between South Florida and Northern Michigan, it is understandable why Spring / Summer molting will start earlier in the South and later in the North.

Temperature /Humidity is another factor. As the heat of Summer builds, so does the extent (volume) of the molt. This factor; heat, has its greatest effect on the downy and body feathers as apposed to the flight feathers of the wings and tail, in addition to those of the head, neck and back, which have a more predictable rate of loss from year-to-year. Not surprisingly, Amazons of the ‘Great White North’ will molt more downy and body feathers in a hotter Summer, then in a cooler Summer.

Another factor is the general health and mental state of the Parrot. Healthier /happier Amazons tend to have more predictable molts, year to year. Creation of new feathers requires energy that a Parrot in poor health or under stress cannot afford to expend. In this case, the Parrot will delay its general molt, focusing its limited energies on critical flight feathers. An extensive molt demands high levels of nutrition, hence the need for a well-balanced healthy diet. In addition, an extensive molt places an equally high demand on the Parrot emotionally. The presents of all those quill feathers are not comfortable. The watchful owner will anticipate wider swings in emotions from ‘please’ scratch me, -to- don’t touch me!

Looking at the variation of only temperature /humidity between the years 2004 and 2005, in 2004 our Amazon had a very short and light molt. In 2005, we believed that he was having four or five of his friends stopping by each day, who were adding to his molt offering. What’s the difference? In 2005, Western Michigan had equaled ‘recent recorded records’ of the number of sunny days and the number of hot /sticky days. In 2004, we were far below average in both categories. In 2005, healthy parrots in the upper ‘Great White North’ molted extensively. In addition, the very warm and sunny Fall of that year resulted in molting far deeper into the late Fall then would normally be expected. Since, the majority of our Amazons are inside. Moderate changes in temperature then those outside do not as quickly affect them.

Depending on the location that your Amazon resides and the ‘local state’ of your weather will have a greater effect on whether you’re fighting to keep your head above the molt or begging for a couple of gifts. In addition, some individuals will have multiple /spaced molts or sometimes an extended molt, while the majority will have only a single Spring and Fall molt. In all cases, their timing is based on having balanced and healthy flight feathers throughout the year, their best set of flash /display feathers at the on-set of Hormonal Season and their best set of downy and body feathers during colder weather.

Molting Flight Feathers:

Wing and Tail feathers follow a very different replacement than other feathers. Under normal phased-replacement, individual primaries and secondaries - flight feathers are replaced over several years. A flight feather lost outside its normal cycle is quickly replaced. However, unless the entire feather is lost (removed) the normal cycle may not replace that individual feather for another one, to three plus years. I am not in favor of the forced removal of a cut or damaged flight feather for sole purpose of enhancing the appearance of the Parrot. Forced removal of a cut or damaged flight feather to return flight should only be undertaken by an experienced individual with the depth of knowledge for the proper sequencing and informed healthcare of the Parrot during that process.

The phased-replacement of flight feathers can be seen in the loss of mainly Tail feathers in one year and mainly Wing feathers over other years. In all cases, the loss of flight feathers is balanced between Wing and Tail and each side (right and left). If the loss were not balanced, in the worst case, the bird would be grounded. Commonly, a grounded bird can quickly become a dead bird. A less then worst-case loss results in a greater effort to maintain balanced flight. The loss of mainly Tail flight feathers requires a greater presents of Wing flight feathers. The balanced-loss of mainly Wing flight feathers requires a greater presents of Tail flight feathers.


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Continued from above!


It is very important to remember that feathers are expensive. Consider for a moment, the physical cost of a single flight feather. The time and energy needed to create it, the DNA mapping for its precise location, contour and color, in addition to, the on-going maintenance and care of that feather. Take a very close look at several different flight feathers from different locations on each Wing and the Tail. Note the differences in size, structure, contour and color from feather to feather. See that with only a little practice, how easy it is to determine if it came from the right or left Wing, -or- center, right, or left side of the Tail, and with only a little more practice, it’s near precise location. Consider that each flight feather is predetermined for its precise location, and that during flight each flight feather is dependant on its neighbors for support and positioning.

Downy Feathers are molted at nearly anytime of the year. Retaining or loss of Downy Feathers helps the parrot adjust their body temperature based on temperature / humidity trends in their environment. Rarely is the loss of Downy Feathers a cause for concern. If you do not have a Downy Feather on your person, you haven't been with your Amazon yet today!

Extensive and/or extend loss of body and Downy feathers to the point of medium or larger bare areas is an indication of a potential health and/or behavioral problem and should be viewed as serious and should be brought to the attention of your Avian Veterinarian.


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Feathers ARE expensive... never thought of it like that. Birds are just so AMAZING!
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Amazon Sounds!

I am continually amazed at the many complains about a noisy Parrot. I love a noisy Amazon for two very different reasons! The first is that an Amazon that is quiet is very possibly ill or getting into something they shouldn’t. And second, Amazon families are involved in a near constant communication with each other and I want to be part of that communication circle!

I hope that you enjoy this next segment as we find reasons to enjoy a noisy Amazon!

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Amazon Sounds!
By: Steven (SailBoat), November 2016

I love a noisy Amazon! I am not taking about ear shattering screams, but an on-going talk, song, jabber and just lots of different sounds /noises, which will be unique to your Amazon. Like children (babies), they are practicing — sounding out words, testing and experimenting with communication. And also, they are using their specific and unique version of contact sounds. Kind of like: I am OK! Are you OK? So, where are You? There are any number of other sounds (statements), assuring a line of ‘Constant Communication’ (contact) between your Amazon and you. This Constant Communication is a common part of communication within a healthy Amazon family /social group. Unanswered contact calls are among the most common causes of behavioral based Screaming.

One of the problems with Amazons on shoulders is that you are very limited in your ability to observe your Amazon. Our Double Yellow Headed Amazon, Julio, is currently sitting on my shoulder and also helping me write this. He is at the same time very busy “Grrrrrr-ing” approval or possibly disapproval, but I am not sure which. I do know that it is one of his contact sounds from my past observations of him, when he is in full view. He has clearly seen something more interesting then correcting my writing, because the contact call sounds have changed and so has his posture. So, down my arm and off to the Julio ‘Foot Toy Box’ and with toy(s) in claw he is now making a purring like sound! Well, he just got very quiet and is missing from view. So — I need to find him, because when my Julio gets’ quiet, he is exploring! And now, I am making contact calls that I use to express: Where are You? And, I just got a ‘Yuck Yuck’ back, so I know where to look.

So, what does your Amazon mean when she is Hissing! I do not know! But, you know what she is not saying — so its time to figure out what she is connecting it to or with and further develop your verbal communications skills with your Amazon.

Well, Julio is back on my shoulder and I just got a couple of deep Aaaaa’s and a couple of quick body movements from him, so a quick look out the window and yes there they are, ‘People’ walking by the front of our home.

On-going observation is a very important part of learning your Amazon’s contact language. Send the time to learn them and you will uncover a fountain of information about the World around you from your Amazon’s point of view. As individuals owned by Amazons we are extremely lucky that our Amazons provide us with a constant report about the World and their opinion regarding it. You will be surprised how much she sees and how much you miss! Don’t guess — look, you will be amazed at what you will learn from your Amazon!


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I like that point of view!

Ya know, since you like noise so much, maybe someday you'll be a Patagonian sn--... uh... no. Nevermind.
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I offer you this Segment (Pray): “Passing of a Feathered Friend,”


As this Thread may likely exist far beyond my involvement in All Things Amazon. I believe that like the leading Segment of this Thread, a lasting testimony (Pray) to the Amazons that have shared our home, expanded our Love, and Understanding of Amazons should be part of this work.

It is not an issue of not wanting to visit and more importantly providing words of support as part of the Bereavement Forum, but my own difficultly in fully facing our many losses over the years. It is a reality of what we have committed ourselves too and each loss returns us to that clarity. When one opens their home to the very sick and very poorly cared for, losses are part of the commitment. I ask not forgiveness, but understanding of not often enough in sharing your grief. For those of you who loss a Loving Feather Family Member, I offer you this Pray “Passing of a Feathered Friend,” that we provide our Loved Ones!

This Segment is Rated: To be Read in the company of close Friends and Family.


May Pease find and stand with you as part of your loss my friends…




Passing of a Feathered Friend
Provided By: Steven (SailBoat), November 2016


“All of us feel such deep sadness when our Parrot friends die, and because they are Animals and not Humans, we are at a loss for words. Often, it is only other Parrot owners who can understand the depth of the loss that we feel with this complex, loyal, and loving creature. Resulting from such a loss, I have placed feelings and emotions into words and found verse to console the loss of my Cleo and since her, other sweet Amazons, in turn; I hope it will speak for all of you.” - Steven


You left this world so quickly. I can hardly comprehend your leaving. Yet there, in my hands, your still body rested — no longer your home. So much I have learned, so much you have taught, your purpose a full measure beyond your size. Comprehensions of your loss still a mist but yet, I know you are whole and happy - now beyond Rainbow Bridge. And so busy you must be upon your green wings, guiding angles to those of us yet to cross. With in my ear, I still hear you, those special sweet sounds of comfort and contentment:


“Do not stand by my grave and weep my friend.
I am not here. I do not sleep.
I am a thousand winds that blow.
I am the diamond glint on snow.
I am the gentle summer rain.
When you wake in the morning hush, I am the swift uplifting rush of quiet birds in circling flight.
I am the soft starlight at night.
Do not stand at my grave and cry my friend.
I am not there. I did not die.”

My pray for you my beloved feathered friend:

“May your body nourish this earth.
May your soul find release and contentment.
May you fly high and free upon wings of spirit.
Rest in peace little green one.”


The love and tender warmth of you is a un-full-fill-able void.
I do so much thank-you for creating a space for another, a special place next to yours’.

In remembrance of Cleo, (Estimated) Spring 1959 - May 2003


Amazon’s Have More Love!

Sources: Cheyenne Warrior Blessing, The Amazona Society’s Forum, Steven (SailBoat)

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Now I am crying all over again. Holding the quiet still body that housed an Amazon just a moment ago cannot be described. Thank you for the love and care you give not only to the birds housed with you, but to the invisible flock of birds you will never see, never hear of, but whose lives will be better and sweeter because of your words.
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Dry Tongue – Wet Tongue?
Or, There is much more going on in your Amazon’s Month than you maybe aware of!

This next segment came about from my observations over the many years that my fingers have for one reason or another found their presents in the month of an Amazon. In addition to what I have watched Amazon’s happily eating, specifically extremely spiced foods! All of which, have brought about this interesting look at what’s going on in your Amazon’s Month.

As with all the segments, it is my hope that they address question that you have or create an interest in taking a deeper look into the Wonderful World of Amazons!

Enjoy!





Dry Tongue – Wet Tongue?
Or, There is much more going on in your Amazon’s Month than you maybe aware of!

By: Steven (SailBoat), November 2016


Based solely on my own observations and physical contact with Amazon tongues, I have found that they (the specific Amazons I have worked with) can control /select when they want /need to have a Wet Tongue. Their normal state is clearly a Dry Tongue and the Wet Tongue is clearly a produced event.

So why is this observation of any importance?

I have noticed organization (suppliers) support using certain paints and chemical finishes,on their products based on Parrot’s having a Dry (Mouth) Tongue. In a Wet (Mouth) Tongue application, the moisture could cause the transfer of some potentially dangerous, to very dangerous chemicals to the Parrot. And, some of these chemicals are of the heavy metal variety. In all fairness, my observations have found the Wet Tongue occurrence is far more rare then a Dry Tongue.

I am not encouraging mass-hysteria -nor- the boycotting of any product. What I am encouraging is a more detailed evaluation of the statement; Parrots (Amazons) have Dry (mouth) Tongues and a little more caution on our part as consumers.

Then discussions regarding a Parrots mouth is taken up, the subject of taste buds surely follows and so address below.

To avoid a deep and possibility, boring journey into the World of Avian Anatomy, we will refer to Taste Buds; those highly specialized sensory devices as: Corpuscles. A Corpuscle could be described as special encapsulated nerve endings. Most all Animals (including Humans) have a number of these specialized Corpuscles located in different parts of body depending on need. Parrots have several types of these nerve endings in their tongue and the dermis of their beak. The reason for those Corpuscles is to receive stimuli from the World in which they touch, a few examples: the touch (pressure), pain, favor, and temperature of the external World.

With just a touch of the Beak and/or Tongue, Parrots can determine an infinite amount of information about an object. Parrot's can determine if the object is a familiar food, something of interest, or something that, for whatever reason, does not interest it. This accounts for food that is prepared in one way being acceptable and another way it is not acceptable. The action (sensory stimulation) of chewing may in fact be enjoyable in-and-of-itself. The action of Beak Grinding in the evening could be said to be a ‘Comfort Behavior,’ which causes a sensual relaxation.

The presents of these Corpuscles may also provide an additional reason for a varied Diet because Parrots derive a great psychological pleasure in manipulation of different textures and shapes of food. Parrots have much more going on in their mouth than is generally known and only with continued research can we find out more.

Since, I personally know of a few adventurous Humans that will eat just about anything regardless of how hot (spiced) it is. I do not accept that having either a dry or wet tongue has an affect on a Parrot’s ability to eat highly spiced foods.

The ability to have or not to have a dry tongue, I believe, is more closely connected to sensory stimulation. The primary point is that they have the ability to have a wet tongue and we should be aware of this when selecting toys and other items that they come in contact with.

NOTE: Resulting from the presents of encapsulated nerve endings very near the base of the Parrot’s upper and lower Beak. Any work, including trimming should only be completed an experience Avian Professional!

Source: Gail Larvenz


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A Parrot's Droppings Can Be an Early Indicator of Illness

As part of reviewing what should be included as part of this Thread, I had originally elected not to include this Segment guessing that it contained ‘known’ information. However, the number of other Threads found in the many Forums regarding this subject has proven me very wrong.

Dr. Harris quickly defines and provides clarity of each Compound of a Parrot’s Droppings, in addition to the importance of keeping a watchful eye for any changes from normal.

Enjoy this quick, pointed, and informative document.

Steven (SailBoat), November 2016




A Parrot's Droppings Can Be an Early Indicator of Illness
Author: Don J. Harris, DVM — Provided with Permission

Because Parrots are excellent at hiding illness, your Parrot’s dropping may be one of the early indicators that your Parrot is sick. There are three components to your Parrot’s droppings–the Stool Component, the Urine Component and the Uric Acid Component. Changes in any of the three components should be taken seriously and may indicate your Parrot is sick. Any abnormal signs demand the immediate attention of your Avian Veterinarian.

1. The Stool Component
The Stool comes from the Gastrointestinal Tract and is usually a greenish rope or blob. This portion of the Parrot’s droppings is highly influenced by the Parrot’s diet and can radically vary with a change in diet. For example, beets can make the Stools red, while blueberries may turn the Stools purple. Colorants in some commercial diets can also change the color of the Stools. Color changes are often irrelevant, but Parrot owners should be concerned if the Stools become black or have a strong or unusual odor.

2. The Urine Component
Your Parrot’s kidneys produce the relatively clear, watery Urine portion. The water content of the foods your Parrot eats directly influences the amount of water in your Parrot’s droppings. Wet Stools, however, should become drier with dry foods. Large amounts of water persistently present in the droppings could be a sign of serious disease and you should consult your Avian Veterinarian.

3. The Uric Acid Component
The white/cream colored Uric Acid portion of your bird’s droppings is a very important indicator of health. This part of the droppings should without exception be white or near white in color. Changes to lime green, bright yellow, mustard brown, pale brown and brick red are common signs of very serious illness. Any change from normal should be investigated immediately.

Establish a normal benchmark in your Parrot by observing and keeping a record of the number, volume, color and consistency of your Parrot’s droppings. This can be very helpful later if you notice a change.
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Thank you for the treatise on tongues and poop!
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