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Old 11-27-2016, 02:09 PM
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Amazons are weird creatures. My YNA Sammy recently (over the past couple of months) decided he wants nothing whatever to do with people.

He won't step up (with anyone, including me, his "person"), and simply runs away if I approach. Any attempt to get closer results in a full-on facial attack with beak, wings, & claws.

Even food training, with his beloved peanuts, results in either him running away (he used to do ANYTHING for a peanut), or taking the nut, throwing it aside, & attacking. He still WANTS the peanut, but he'd rather kill the person that offers it (me, that is) than accept it.

He used to look forward to being on my shoulder every day, being carried around from room to room, and he clamored for attention daily.

He hasn't allowed the slightest shred of human contact now for over a month, and he gets more standoffish every day. It's like he's reverting to being wild. Unfortunately, with his tendency to attack, we can't let him out of his cage anymore, so he'll soon be a permanently caged, strictly ornamental bird.

It's a shame, it's painful for one who loves him so much, and it saddens me deeply. It seems MY "Sammy" is gone - and I'm a complete stranger to him.

He's gone through periods in the past where he'd be angry & holding a grudge over some "insult" (like, if I was away for a day or two). Every time, though, the period after these "grudges" has gotten longer and longer, from a day or two initially, to a month or more recently.

This last time, I went away in August for a weekend, and my old Sammy simply never returned.

It seems that Amazons can revert to being permanently anti-social, at will.

I miss my "Sammy time"...
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Old 11-27-2016, 05:00 PM
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Re: More Sammy weirdness

So what really happened about a month ago?

Amazon's just no do revert back to a 'wild state.' FYI: A wild state is not sitting alone! Amazon's are social creatures.

When was the last time Sammy saw his Avian Vet?
I suggest that you get him into seeing his Avian Vet ASAP! Not Kidding!

Yes, Amazons can get grumpy if you are away, but that's for a few hours, maybe a day.

Anti-social at will, for a few hours maybe.
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Old 11-27-2016, 05:05 PM
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Old 11-27-2016, 05:40 PM
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Re: More Sammy weirdness

Could he be starting puberty? Like mentioned birds dont just turn "wild". Something had to happen, whether in his environment (did something physically happen, or change?) or internally (puberty or illness). Definitely see an Avian Vet. I understand it is a hard situation but him now not having any contact is going to just make things more difficult. If the vet gives him an all clear and it is not illness, or a physical trauma that started this and rather hormones, you may need to break out the gloves and a perch and work on training very rigidly to get past this, possibly hormone shots if it is that bad. If you are experienced with breeding, a female bird would ease his desires, but he will not be the same companion he was, and you need to, or have someone around who knows what theyre doing. Regardless, first thing to do is see the vet and see what they say, then you can see how you will proceed.
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Old 11-28-2016, 11:25 AM
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Re: More Sammy weirdness

How terrible.. I hope you come up with a solution. I would be devastated if Rio did something like that. Please let us know if you take him to the vet, and what he/she had to contribute. Wishing you the best....
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Old 11-28-2016, 11:31 AM
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Re: More Sammy weirdness

Man, I would be devastated too. But don't give up on Sammy. LIke 'Boats said, have him checked by an Avian vet; if he is hurting or not feeling well from something, he might be really angry, and not know how else to let that hurting out. Like imagine if you had a toothache, a bad one, for a few days, weeks, months.... pretty sure you would be anti social too. Keep us posted, please.
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Old 11-28-2016, 11:34 AM
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Re: More Sammy weirdness

Do you live alone? It's terrible to think of, but I knew someone who's human partner was abusing the bird, banging on the bars, because they wanted the bird gone. Hidden nanny cam, and guess who wound up gone. I know, it's insulting to say it, but a hidden cam might reveal something, a noise or direct sunlight or something that is all of a sudden causing a problem? Amazons are smart and they REMEMBER if they been done wrong.
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Re: More Sammy weirdness

I know it's hormone time at my house for my YNA. When this happens behavior can become extreme.
Not saying a vet checkup in not a good idea.
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Old 11-30-2016, 12:06 PM
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Re: More Sammy weirdness

The idea of that is just heartbreaking to me! I, too, recommend a vet visit ASAP! I cannot imagine being without my Charlie, even when he is an angry, bitey bird. I was having a bad day not too long ago and needed to just sit near my birdie for a while until I began to feel better.
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Re: More Sammy weirdness

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Amazons are weird creatures. My YNA Sammy recently (over the past couple of months) decided he wants nothing whatever to do with people.

He won't step up (with anyone, including me, his "person"), and simply runs away if I approach. Any attempt to get closer results in a full-on facial attack with beak, wings, & claws.

Even food training, with his beloved peanuts, results in either him running away (he used to do ANYTHING for a peanut), or taking the nut, throwing it aside, & attacking. He still WANTS the peanut, but he'd rather kill the person that offers it (me, that is) than accept it.

He used to look forward to being on my shoulder every day, being carried around from room to room, and he clamored for attention daily.

He hasn't allowed the slightest shred of human contact now for over a month, and he gets more standoffish every day. It's like he's reverting to being wild. Unfortunately, with his tendency to attack, we can't let him out of his cage anymore, so he'll soon be a permanently caged, strictly ornamental bird.

It's a shame, it's painful for one who loves him so much, and it saddens me deeply. It seems MY "Sammy" is gone - and I'm a complete stranger to him.

He's gone through periods in the past where he'd be angry & holding a grudge over some "insult" (like, if I was away for a day or two). Every time, though, the period after these "grudges" has gotten longer and longer, from a day or two initially, to a month or more recently.

This last time, I went away in August for a weekend, and my old Sammy simply never returned.

It seems that Amazons can revert to being permanently anti-social, at will.

I miss my "Sammy time"...

So, is he any better? Yes? No? or What?
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