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Yellow Nape 12 66.67%
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Old 07-06-2017, 09:26 PM
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Re: Welcome home, Bingo!

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Greetings to Bingo, and congratulations to Allee on adding an Amazon to the flock! Amazons are pretty special and it doesn't take long to be won over by an Amazon's personality. A warm welcome to the ever-expanding flock to Jack the CAG too.
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Old 07-06-2017, 09:46 PM
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Re: Welcome home, Bingo!

That pic of him peeping around the door is most adorable! He will have you wrapped around his talons doing his bidding in no time at all.

With the new photos, I'm completely convinced he is a YNA now. I would imagine YNA's have subspecies much like the BFA's and DYH's though I am not familiar with YNA subspecies like I am DYH and BFAs. Someone else may have further insight. Though I will say, to my understanding, many YNA's do not have much yellow on their napes until they are mature birds and it spreads with age. 8 is just entering puberty and around the age (many) amazons colors start to spread being sexually mature birds.

BTW- Are you certain he's male? Hot 3 amazon, male, 8 years old and 'polite' do not typically go together in the same sentence

Edit: I think I've identified why he strikes me as a YNA, he has a deeper green color to the plumage (or at least the photos show that way). YCA's I am seeing photos of only appear to have brighter green plumage the any YNA I've seen. I am, of course, purely speculating for fun here but I do know some amazons do have a deeper green with a more blue overtone while others have a more 'lime' green color. I am also seeing a lighter, more mottled beak on YCAs than YNAs. Oh, and the black edges are normal for healthy amazon feathers. Almost makes them look scaly, like the big modern day dinobirds they are!

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Re: Welcome home, Bingo!

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BTW- Are you certain he's male? Hot 3 amazon, male, 8 years old and 'polite' do not typically go together in the same sentence
And, now we have all the possible members of the DNA Family confirmed! Well, at the very least, we know what family he is a member!

Regarding the 'Hot 3 Amazons!' After all, we suffers of this special group are so conditioned by their being that one tends to forget that we live happily in the mist of their control. Every now and again, one of the members' remembers and reminds the group of our fate. Hmmm, only the YNA is a member of this group!

The joy of defining Bingo's species keeps get more mysterious everyday!
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Old 07-06-2017, 10:29 PM
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Re: Welcome home, Bingo!

Thanks, April! Here's a couple more pics for cuteness sake.





He wanted to come out just couldn't quite come all the way out the door yet.

Ummm, I was embracing the illusion that he was not a hot 3. So unfair, I have a U2 and a 6 month old golden retriever puppy already. I need a vacation.

No, I am not at all sure he is a male, remains to be seen. His manners come and go, he gets wound up morning and evening. He tells me, "turn it off", "turn it off", in the morning he says, "turn it up", "turn it up" (lights). Rumor has it he attacked his former owner twice recently, possibly provoked but I didn't see the attacks.

Any advice on perches, the bottoms of his feet have little pink spots, almost like he's been walking on course sandpaper. My guess is his perches haven't been changed out or moved in a long time, there were a couple of concrete perches, I took those out. Maybe some slender natural perches would help? I know Quaker feet and Too feet, Zon feet, I'm not so familiar with.

His appetite is not what I'd like it to be yet, we're working on it.
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Re: Welcome home, Bingo!

In yet another shameless recommendation of the Sticky Thread in the Amazon Forum, titled: "I Love Amazons ..." and, within that Thread is a Segment: "Getting To The Foot of The Problem." Remember to take a look at the pictures on the following page!

With Amazons, the want is to move them to larger diameter perches. And, to that point, the vast variation you have provided is heart-warming. As you watch him over the days to come. He will target a roosting perch and that perch will want to be at least 2" (50 mm) diameter at the very least, with natural variation.

Enjoy!
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Re: Welcome home, Bingo!

Welcome Bingo! Oh, he's so beautiful, Allee. I will be lurking every day to gets my closet Amazon fix...
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Old 07-06-2017, 11:48 PM
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Re: Welcome home, Bingo!

Quote: Originally Posted by Kiwibird View Post
That pic of him peeping around the door is most adorable! He will have you wrapped around his talons doing his bidding in no time at all.

With the new photos, I'm completely convinced he is a YNA now. I would imagine YNA's have subspecies much like the BFA's and DYH's though I am not familiar with YNA subspecies like I am DYH and BFAs. Someone else may have further insight. Though I will say, to my understanding, many YNA's do not have much yellow on their napes until they are mature birds and it spreads with age. 8 is just entering puberty and around the age (many) amazons colors start to spread being sexually mature birds.

BTW- Are you certain he's male? Hot 3 amazon, male, 8 years old and 'polite' do not typically go together in the same sentence

Edit: I think I've identified why he strikes me as a YNA, he has a deeper green color to the plumage (or at least the photos show that way). YCA's I am seeing photos of only appear to have brighter green plumage the any YNA I've seen. I am, of course, purely speculating for fun here but I do know some amazons do have a deeper green with a more blue overtone while others have a more 'lime' green color. I am also seeing a lighter, more mottled beak on YCAs than YNAs. Oh, and the black edges are normal for healthy amazon feathers. Almost makes them look scaly, like the big modern day dinobirds they are!
Yup, I agree. Bingo is a yellow nape who is simply a bit of a late bloomer. Based on his bone size and breadth of head, I'd say he's probably a male, but to feel more sure of this, I'd like to see a longer, flatter head. His is a bit on the round side. Not quite "obvious female" round, though. I'd still lean toward male, but the only way to know for sure is to have him / her sexed. Another problem with guessing sex is the huge range in sizes of yellow napes. I've seen some that were nearly as big as mealy Amazons. Others were much smaller. A guess as to Bingo's sex would be a more accurate guess (is there such a thing?) if we knew his background and parentage.

Thirty-one years ago, I had a summer job at a pet store with lots of baby / juvenile napes. We had a bunch of very well-behaved youngsters. There was a big, fat one named Tubby who would let anyone handle him. You could pick him up any which way, even by the belly, and he was extremely tolerant. I don't know Tubby's sex. I believe he was two years old and still very sociable. With some Amazons, the serious behavioral problems begin with the onset of puberty. If this bird is late getting his or her yellow nape, he / she might be developmentally delayed. If so, Bingo is still a child. If he's still late after some good nutrition, you might want to have a CAV do some blood work.

Looks like you hit the Amazon lottery. This fellow really does look good-natured.
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Re: Welcome home, Bingo!

Fabulous pics Allee and see you have weaved your magic with his cage, such a lucky bird.
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Re: Welcome home, Bingo!

Kelly's favorite perch is a cholla cactus perch. His feet used to hurt him more before he got one if anyone remembers that lol. He did sit in a small cage on a single perch for 20 years so I think the variation in texture and the wider diameter help him a lot.
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Re: Welcome home, Bingo!

I am sticking with Mealy. The size will tell, mealy's are that much bigger then the average YNA
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