Can I breed between brothers YNA?

I got an established breeding couple for years but recently I decided to build an outside cage for the couple and a younger female (8 years old) daughter from the old couple. We also have a male (10 years old) also son from the couple. I try to exchange the male for another male to try to establish a new couple with the female but haven't find any. Some people that I know have told me that brothers can be breed without problems and others have told me not to do it. Can someone gave me feedback?


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The Short Answer is NO! You always want to be building variation into your Breeders with as much separation between mating pairs as possible. Looking for overall Strength, Appearance and most importantly Health! The smaller the circle the more pronounced the weaknesses. The early issues are smaller overall size and more washed coloration. The worst case is physical /structural issues.

Incest is NOT GOOD...in ANY situation!





Jim

I think you have gotten the general gist that inbreeding parrots is a horrible idea.

I just wanted to say before you being breeding and raising any parrots, even unrelated ones, you may find it helpful to learn a bit more first. You want to ensure your breeding pair are in good health and the chicks are raised to be healthy and happy so they can go on to be good companion birds who find loving homes. There is a breeding/raising parrots section you may be interested in reading some posts in and asking more questions before you get into trying to breed your new pair

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Kiwibird said:

I think you have gotten the general gist that inbreeding parrots is a horrible idea.

I just wanted to say before you being breeding and raising any parrots, even unrelated ones, you may find it helpful to learn a bit more first. You want to ensure your breeding pair are in good health and the chicks are raised to be healthy and happy so they can go on to be good companion birds who find loving homes. There is a breeding/raising parrots section you may be interested in reading some posts in and asking more questions before you get into trying to breed your new pair

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Thanks a lot!!... definitely I'll be checking that..[emoji106]



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My dad is the one that have being working with them for at least 15 years... I'm sure that the best way is to replace that male, but they seems to be very attached to that parrot. My parents are now too old to take good care of them. That's why I'll be taking them to my home, but having to prepare 3 cages for me its hard. I'll try to follow the recommendations, if trying to establish a new couple it's not possible, then I will find a good person who can take good care of it.


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Breeder birds aren't typically very human friendly nor considered "pets", but your one who isn't a breeder has a good chance of becoming "tame" and friendly if you work with him instead of finding him a mate. You wouldn't want to keep him as a companion/pet bird for yourself?

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Breeder birds aren't typically very human friendly nor considered "pets", but your one who isn't a breeder has a good chance of becoming "tame" and friendly if you work with him instead of finding him a mate. You wouldn't want to keep him as a companion/pet bird for yourself?

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The female is mine, she talks a lot, is very friendly and funny... but if I move her to my new house she will spend a lot of time alone... that's why I'm looking to get her a mate.


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SailBoat said:

The Short Answer is NO! You always want to be building variation into your Breeders with as much separation between mating pairs as possible. Looking for overall Strength, Appearance and most importantly Health! The smaller the circle the more pronounced the weaknesses. The early issues are smaller overall size and more washed coloration. The worst case is physical /structural issues.

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My college roommates tried to breed their brother / sister cockatiels in our apartment, ignored every recommendation I made and then blamed me when the tiny chick died. That poor chick had at least one strike against it from the beginning because it was inbred.

Besides, you don't want a King Joffrey yellow nape, do you?

Ladyhawk said:

SailBoat said:

The Short Answer is NO! You always want to be building variation into your Breeders with as much separation between mating pairs as possible. Looking for overall Strength, Appearance and most importantly Health! The smaller the circle the more pronounced the weaknesses. The early issues are smaller overall size and more washed coloration. The worst case is physical /structural issues.

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My college roommates tried to breed their brother / sister cockatiels in our apartment, ignored every recommendation I made and then blamed me when the tiny chick died. That poor chick had at least one strike against it from the beginning because it was inbred.



Besides, you don't want a King Joffrey yellow nape, do you?

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Nop... I don't...[emoji4]


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Juan_Ri said:

Kiwibird said:

Breeder birds aren't typically very human friendly nor considered "pets", but your one who isn't a breeder has a good chance of becoming "tame" and friendly if you work with him instead of finding him a mate. You wouldn't want to keep him as a companion/pet bird for yourself?

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The female is mine, she talks a lot, is very friendly and funny... but if I move her to my new house she will spend a lot of time alone... that's why I'm looking to get her a mate.


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You can teach her independent play and self entertainment skills for when you are away. Many people leave their birds all day alone and keep them entertained through other means. Amazons, as a whole, are quite adaptable to a variety of arrangements.

You can also keep her brother as more of a "friend" if they are proven to get along so they can see each other and can even allow them to interact while supervised. Nothing wrong with that! Mating, of course, should be prevented and they should be caged separately. There is no issues in keeping sibling birds as "buddies" but it is irresponsible to allow them to reproduce. And yes, birds of opposite genders can be "friends", just with supervised interactions and perhaps some changes during the brief mating season. Parrots are only interested in baby making for a few weeks a year, it is not a year round issue though it is always best with a male and female to cage separately and supervise interactions just to be safe