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Old 07-18-2017, 11:38 PM
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Re: Kizzy: the Flying Toddler Stage

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Kizzy is beautiful!!! And your target training technique is excellent! She's responding very quickly, and is obviously enjoying your sessions together. Before you know it, she'll be rounding corners looking for you!
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Old 07-19-2017, 08:54 PM
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Re: Kizzy: the Flying Toddler Stage

I thought Kizzy was going to be left-footed, but now she is using her right foot more often than not. When I was researching footedness in parrots, I came across an article that said babies go through an ambidextrous stage before choosing a preferred foot. Maybe. I'm hesitant to say Kizzy prefers one foot over the other because she already changed preferences once.

Kizzy is sensitive for an Amazon and sometimes acts more like a baby African grey than a baby Amazon. Maybe she'll be right-footed like most greys. Who knows? I certainly don't. I am learning Kizzy 101 as I go along. I'm getting good marks in some subjects, not so good in others, but I am willing to learn.
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Old 07-20-2017, 05:46 PM
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Re: Kizzy: the Flying Toddler Stage

Kizzy's latest word: "Peek-a-boo!" She learned it from my mother.
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Old 07-21-2017, 10:23 PM
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Re: Kizzy: the Flying Toddler Stage

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Kizzy is beautiful!!! And your target training technique is excellent! She's responding very quickly, and is obviously enjoying your sessions together. Before you know it, she'll be rounding corners looking for you!
Thanks. Kizzy is extremely bright. She grasped the concept of a bridge word, a reward and a target in less than a minute. By the third short training session that day, she was already flying between perches and my arm. XD

As for rounding corners to find me, she was doing that before I made this video. XD She's a precocious little girl and I love her very much. I'm actually (mostly) looking forward to the challenge of raising her. I know much of it will be difficult, but wow! What a bird!
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Old 07-21-2017, 10:37 PM
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Re: Kizzy: the Flying Toddler Stage

Regarding footedness in parrots, I had a thought. Perhaps when a baby is still very clumsy, he or she uses the preferred foot for balancing and grasps with the other. As standing becomes easier and then second nature, perhaps the parrot is able to start manipulating objects with the preferred foot. Or perhaps this idea has no merit whatsoever.

I'm interested, so I'll probably end up researching the topic a bit more if I have time. Flying toddlers are time-consuming.
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Old 07-26-2017, 01:17 AM
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Re: Kizzy: the Flying Toddler Stage

Kizzy knows when I tap my shoulder it means it's OK to fly there. She figured this out the very first time I did it, which means we have some kind of basic understanding of one another. Parrots are smart.

If she's going to land on me, I'd really rather she fly to my shoulder than land on my head, although I always make sure she feels welcome. Being with me should always be a good thing.
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Re: Kizzy: the Flying Toddler Stage

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Regarding footedness in parrots, I had a thought. Perhaps when a baby is still very clumsy, he or she uses the preferred foot for balancing and grasps with the other. As standing becomes easier and then second nature, perhaps the parrot is able to start manipulating objects with the preferred foot. Or perhaps this idea has no merit whatsoever.

I'm interested, so I'll probably end up researching the topic a bit more if I have time. Flying toddlers are time-consuming.
I have been all over the board regarding Footedness. The one thing that drives the discourse is their switching-off when resting and/or sleeping as they control body heat and balance on one leg. They really need to have near equal strength to assure that they do not develop leg, claw and toe problems by use of mainly one leg use.

That all said, I have seen very specific use of one leg over another as a tool to 'push' away, 'request a Step-up or grasp items! Its going to be enjoyable to watch what comes out of your follow her development.
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Old 07-26-2017, 05:51 PM
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Re: Kizzy: the Flying Toddler Stage

Kizzy Bird: In Search of...Socialization

So, today I went to a few places, looking for a place where I can safely socialize my flying toddler. She isn't harness-trained yet, so it has to be a place where she can't fly high and where people will be willing to handle her under my supervision.

I went to PetSmart, but the ceilings are too high and there are too many canines. Weirdly, the guy who takes care of the live animals there bought a blue front from Kizzy's breeder, so there's a good chance his bird is a full brother to Kizzy. Another guy who works there is the son of a woman who still has one of the greys I bred over twenty years ago. I live in a very rural area. There's always someone you know or someone who knows someone you know. Not many degrees of separation.

Finally, I looked in the library, which is quite close to where I live. I could walk there quite easily. A woman whose daughter attended the same grade school, junior high school, high school and college as me works there. (Again: very rural.) We went into a side room and Kizzy was a very well-behaved little girl.

I forgot to warn her about two windows in the room and she tried to fly through one. Luckily, it was only a few feet away so it didn't even phase her. She simply turned around and came back to me when I asked. The people in the room (especially me!)
were more upset than she was. (Note to self: Show Kizzy any windows first. Tap on them to make sure she knows they're solid. Think like your flighted toddler before entering into new situations.)

Other than the scary window incident, everything went very well. Kizzy climbed all over the librarians. I rescued their buttons and earrings as needed. Kizzy liked one of them so much, she flew over and landed on her shoulder. I read Kizzy's body language and just told the librarian to hold still if that happened and that Kizzy would likely land on her shoulder or on top of her head. (Note to self: Teach Kizzy that shoulders are preferable to the top of the head.)

Kizzy needs to meet lots of people in new situations and until she's fully harness trained, I have to make do. I also need to take into consideration the safety of given situations. I was looking for a room with low ceilings with a door that didn't lead directly outside and safe landing areas should she decide to fly. I forgot that windows between rooms are still windows. Whoops. Luckily, Kizzy didn't get hurt due to my negligence and taught me to look for one extra thing.

I think I'll go back there. If I tap on the glass, I don't think she'll try to fly through it again. Also, we'll be standing right next to it and she won't be able to build up enough speed to really hurt herself.

Having a fully-flighted bird is new for me and quite scary. I still think she will be happier and healthier if we can both make it through the training stage. Our next step is the harness, but only Kizzy can decide when training will be finished.
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Re: Kizzy: the Flying Toddler Stage

Also today: Kizzy spent a long time on her back in my hand, playing with one of her toys. As long as she has a toy to kill, she's content lying on her back in my hand.
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Re: Kizzy: the Flying Toddler Stage

Socializing her well early on is a good move on your part. Makes for a much happier and well-adjusted/well-traveled bird later on. Remember to do the glass tapping thing repeatedly at first, especially since this is outside of your home and her sense of the familiar. Any bird is more likely to get spooked outside of the home, so you want to take extra precautions in that regard.
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