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Old 11-16-2010, 02:39 PM
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Hi Guys,
Well, I'm looking for a new companion, I made a VERY silly move by selling sky,
I am now looking for a new parrot, and am willing to do everything to make him happy!
Me and my family have decided to get either an african grey or an amazon.
I have 3 little sisters, our family is very dedicated towards parrots, so we have the right environment hopefully, We've had ringneck's before, never had a grey or amazon, we have once however taken care of a grey for a friend for 6 weeks,
He was very noisy, but also very loving, he had his moments when he wanted to stay in the cage, but I have never been bitten by one, Also, my friend has an amazon, he was very talkative and loving, so I am not sure which one to buy, which would be suitable for me?
Someone is always home, so they will get loads of attention!
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Re: Amazons vs African Greys

Please give us more details of why you sold Sky. Perhaps we could help you more that way.
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Old 11-16-2010, 02:44 PM
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Re: Amazons vs African Greys

Hi,
Well, I sold sky because he bit my dad on the shoulder and took a chunk out, made him bleed very badly, but I think it was silly, my parents sold him out of anger and they said they regret it, sky was not tame, but he was a great bird. My parents said that they will be responsible towards the birds we will buy.
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Re: Amazons vs African Greys

Please consider that most companion bird will at some time give a bite that breaks the skin. It is very rare that as a parrot guardian your skin is not bruised or bitten, especially when you have a larger Amazon or CAG.
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Old 11-16-2010, 03:25 PM
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Re: Amazons vs African Greys

If your parents were angry at a Budgie bite, it will be much worse with an Amazon. Amazons can be moody, and unpredictable. They are beautiful birds, and I love Fred(my Amazon)...but I expect whoever handles the bird will get bitten, and it will hurt much more than a budgie's bite. Amazons need patience, and respect, and even then, bites happen.

Have you considered a Linnie? You'll likely get bitten by a Linnie as well, in the beginning, but it's not nearly as painful as an Amazon bite. Hand raised Linnies are fairly predictable birds, and learn to love their people very much.
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Old 11-16-2010, 07:15 PM
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Re: Amazons vs African Greys

I'm gonna chime in here on the Amazon front, my girlfriend's Red Lored Amazon is a great bird, he loves to talk, loves an audience, is gregarious and has personality out his feathey butt... However, he has an attitude and bites when the mood stikes him, sometimes without warning.. Amazons can change moods in an instant and you are almost guaranteed to get bitten at some point, posibly HARD. If biting is a big concern an Amazon may not be the right choice.

I have no real experience with CAGs and TAGs, but they also have big strong beaks and an angry or frightened CAG could take a good chunk i'm sure...

for a larger bird experience, I'm a big fan of the Alexandrine parakeet. They are one of the least bite-inclined birds around, and although they don't tend to be as brainy as AGs, or quite as gregarious as Amazns, but they have great, stabil personalities, can be excellent talkers and are adventerous and love to play. Please remember, I am biased
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Old 11-16-2010, 10:59 PM
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Re: Amazons vs African Greys

Hi Kiwi,

I can chime in on what it's like living with a CAG. My baby is 15 weeks old, so just a baby. He's been loved, snuggled, hand fed, talked to A LOT, sang to, danced for, and just plain spoiled as spoiled can be. AND YES, he is a GEM, however, even as a baby with LOTS of attention, he still will bite now and again. I wouldn't trade him, sell him, re home him for all the money in the world, but, I know that he is going to bite sometimes. In fact, with most birds, it comes with the territory. If your family decides to get a larger breed bird, maybe you could encourage them to do a little bit of research on which ever species interests them the most, so they're aware that these things CAN and WILL happen occasionally. Perhaps you could come up with a family plan as to how you'll handle the situation, once you're faced with it?? It's always a good idea to plan ahead for possible mishaps.

Just like us humans get cranky and maybe say things we don't mean to people we love and hurt them, birds get cranky too, except they don't have the verbal skills to express their frustrations, so, they bite. It doesn't mean they aren't remorseful, because I'm a FIRM believer that they certainly are. But just like us, they aren't perfect. So it's very important to forgive your bird, just as you would hope your loved one would forgive you, if you mistakenly hurt their feelings.
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Old 11-16-2010, 11:11 PM
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Re: Amazons vs African Greys

On a lighter note;

If I were to convince you one way or the other, I couldn't. LOL.. Each an Amazon as well as a Grey have so many wonderful things about them to offer into a family unit. Just as each of them have quirks that could be considered an issue to a family unit, depending on individual circumstances.

Greys have a tendency to be a rather shy kind of bird (don't tell Mishka that, lol) they also are a bit nervous and it doesn't take much for them to lose trust in their humans. They require daily attention and a TON of socialization or they could become a bit neurotic.

Amazons, as stated by the folks here that live with them can be very tempermental, which can be so frustrating at times. Just when you think you've brought your relationship to a new level, the bird gets cranky, bites or withdraws, only to be Mr/Ms lovey dovey the next day all over again. It is an endless cycle and to live with an Amazon, you must realize that it is what it is and not let those off days discourage you too much.

That's why THIS forum is GREAT!! We all get to vent off our experiences with our birds each day and compare notes and realize, it's not necessarily anything WE did to our birds, but they're just having a day. OR Maybe it IS something we've done, they we never realized, but someone here helps us to realize what it could be.
It's also REALLY fun to share all the wonderful things about our birds with each other too!!! Because, lets face it, not ALL of our friends outside of here want to hear all about our FIDS all the time, right guys?? LOL

Kiwi, good luck honey. I hope for you and your family to make the best decision for yourselves and a new FID.
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Old 11-17-2010, 01:05 PM
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Re: Amazons vs African Greys

Hi Guys
Thanks for the replies! Sky was a blue indian ringneck not a budgie lol, no worries, I should've made it clear, we believe that we can take care of a larger bird and if he happens to bite, we will do a more responsible option then to sell him or her, what would be best to do if a bird (Grey or Amazon) Bites you?
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Re: Amazons vs African Greys

Best option is to educate yourself on the nature of parrots and why they bite people. Learn to watch the body language for an impending bite. Do not shoulder a bird that bites or put you hands in the cage when the bird is in the cage.
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