Amys meds came..

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..something called Isoxsuprine HCI Suspension.. .11ml once a day.

I'm kind of fortunate,Amy will hang upside down from his perch stick and I can put my hand around his back and hold him.
I waved the syringe at him and he opened up wide and SQUIRT :D
I wonder how long that'll last before he gets wise to my trick :rolleyes::54:



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Oh...and side effects can be "high BP and/or Rapid heart rate..How the heck am I suppose to check for those?? :confused:



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My dear buddy, you have my sympathy and support. As you know, after 34 years of "not a scratch, not a sniffle", the Rb is now on Vasotec.
I'm trying hard to stay cool about it.
I get my best reassurance by reminding myself that it's just another way to show our love.
Vasotec side effects include nausea, dizziness, drowsiness, and erectile dysfunction. So far, no hint of any of those...
 

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Remember our discussion about holding Amy's chest to your ear? Kind of like a 'true' smart phone, with wings! You can hear the heart, so you'll have that one.
 

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Jim I'm glad Amy is taking it well so far. Hopefully you wont have to re-invent a method every week.

Gail - the RB with erectile disfunction??? Say it ain't so - the Henz will all be disapointed.
 

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Jim I'm glad Amy is taking it well so far. Hopefully you wont have to re-invent a method every week.

Gail - the RB with erectile disfunction??? Say it ain't so - the Henz will all be disapointed.

It ain't so.
 

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LOL, I used to take Isoxsuprine once a day for my Raynaud's Disease! I have horrible Raynaud's in my hands and feet, but it only happens during the winter. Basically when I first go outside when it's cold out, both my hands and my feet turn blue/purple/almost black and hurt/burn so badly that I have to come back inside after about 20-30 minutes of it...Then once I go back into the heat, they both turn a bright, cherry red color and go from this horrible dull, deep, aching pain to feeling like they're both on fire for about 20-30 minutes...Then after I go through that cycle once, I can then go back outside in the cold and it doesn't happen again, at least not to that extreme. After I go through the "cycle" once and I go back out in the cold, my hands and feet still turn purple and go numb, and I get the "pins and needles" feeling, and when I go back into the heat they tingle/burn a little bit, but it isn't painful. It's a very strange thing to go through...my face actually does it a little bit as well...I've had this since I was a kid, it started around the age of 10 or so and has continued to this day, at the age of 38.

This became a real issue once I started working in the car-business in central PA, as the salespeople and sales managers are the ones who go out first thing in the morning after a snow storm and spend hours and hours raking off the cars, starting them all up, moving them, plowing, then moving them back. So I have to go out and start raking off the cars, fully knowing that I'm going to be in horrible agony in about 30 minutes, so I stay out as long as I can without collapsing because my feet hurt so badly I can't stand (this is with snowboarding socks and a pair of $500 Salomon snowboarding boots on, and a pair of $200 Salomon gloves on). Then I go back inside, take off my gloves and my boots, sit at my desk holding back the tears from the pain for about 20 minutes, take a bunch of crap from the rest of the sales staff for coming inside, then after the pain stops I go back out and am fine...They don't get it, I don't understand it, and multiple doctors don't understand it either, including several Rheumatologists...

***Anyway, I have tried taking several meds for this crap over the years, most of them have been Vasodilators and Calcium Channel Blockers, including Isoxsuprine, Nifedipine, Amlodipine, and Losartan...The Isoxsuprine was the last one I tried, and I didn't experience any side effects from that one at all...Some of the Calcium Channel Blockers, especially the Nifedipine, made me dizzy at times, usually after I would stand-up suddenly. It also would cause my extremities to "tingle", for a lack of a better way to describe it...

None of the Vasodilators like the Isoxsuprine caused me any issues at all, they warned me about rapid heart rate and sudden changes in my BP that might cause me to become dizzy and/or pass-out, but that never happened. And not one of the drugs I tried helped with the Raynaud's Disease one bit, but that's most-likely because i couldn't get one doctor to prescribe me even close to the dosage that is recommended to help Raynaud's. I did my research online, and the Calcium Channel Blockers work very well for people, like the Nifedipine, as well as Gabapentin, which I also tried, but the prescriptions that I was given were a fraction of the dosage at which people with Raynaud's Disease get relief. Like the Gabapentin, lol, I had to laugh, they asked me on the follow-up visit after a month if it was helping, and I said "No, but that's probably because you gave me a prescription for 200mg a day, when the average dosage of Gabapentin for Raynaud's Disease is a starting-dose of 2,000mg a day"...Since these were all "Off-Label" uses, my insurance wouldn't cover them and even the Rheumatologists were scared to prescribe the appropriate amounts...Welcome to the Geisinger Health System with Geisinger Insurance (yes, they pay themselves). Unfortunately Geisinger Insurance and Geisinger doctors/medical centers rule this area, and not only does their insurance suck the big-one, badly, but I've had 2 different doctors, one my GP and the other a Rheumatologist, tell me that they "weren't allowed" to prescribe appropriate medications and/or dosages for off-label uses". They have meetings once a week where they discuss this stuff, and their doctors literally get direction from administrators on what they are allowed to prescribe who, and how much...I hate it here because of Geisinger...Oh yeah, President Obama used the Geisinger Health System/Geisinger Insurance as the model for "ObamaCare"...LOL

End of rant, sorry...But I never experienced any side effects from the Isoxsuprine, and I took that one for 2 years, once a day (the first year I only took it from October through March then stopped, but the second year they had me take it throughout the entire year to see if that would yield any positive results, but nothing)...

I'm trying to get them to prescribe low-dose Nitro to me, as that has helped numerous Raynaud's patients, but I'll probably have to travel out of the state for that to happen, and pay out-of-pocket like I have to for all my health-care stuff...uhg...

Hopefully Amy doesn't experience any of the side-effects, I would think that if he is going to experience any, it will most-likely happen during the first couple of days/weeks/month that he takes the Vasodilator, as his body should adjust to the increase in blood-flow after he takes it for a while. I believe they warned me about an increase in heart rate and BP, as well as sudden nausea when I was given the Isoxsuprine...*****The other thing you have to watch when on a Vasodilator is combining it with any other medications that can effect blood pressure!

**So just an FYI, if Amy has to be put under anesthesia at the vet's office for anything, like an x-ray, or is ever given any type of opiate pain medication, or sedative, like a Benzo like Valium, that's where you have to be careful...But your CAV will obviously know about this, you're very lucky to have the CAV that you do, they seem extremely experienced and knowledgeable..

He'll be fine once he adjusts to the medication, which will happen quickly...
 

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