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Old 10-07-2018, 01:28 PM
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Re: Got my Pak-o-bird

I was not happy with the price also but I thought it was worth it.
Winter is coming and using a small cage is drafty to take my birds 2 the Dr if needed.
Can use it for .... well any of my Fids will fit in it. Bella would have a stroke until she gets use to it and that may be a while.

They make a pak that has 2 separate sections. That might be a way to get Bingo to accept Luna if they have a “date “ together.
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Old 10-07-2018, 06:54 PM
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Re: Got my Pak-o-bird

Best I can do ATM. computer is occupied with other work.

https://imgur.com/gallery/bXzsQRQ

I took Bingo for a short walk down the block. Talked with/to neighbors.
Bingo was very happy and excited to see the outside.
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Old 10-07-2018, 09:59 PM
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Re: Got my Pak-o-bird

Gorgeous! You know the piece of plastic in the bottom is held in with Velcro so you can pop it out for easy cleaning, right?


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Old 10-07-2018, 11:44 PM
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Re: Got my Pak-o-bird

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Gorgeous! You know the piece of plastic in the bottom is held in with Velcro so you can pop it out for easy cleaning, right?


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It has a zipper all the way around the bottom so it wont fall out, but yes the plastic insert on the bottom should come out.

but it would not soak up um... liquid mess and it would end up in the fabric.
newspaper will soak up small amounts of liquid waste. For an extended trip and water in one of the bowels I would have to do something else. Perhaps several layers of paper towels. If going to the vet I would want to bring water along.. or a long car ride.
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Re: Got my Pak-o-bird

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Instructions keep getting smaller and harder to read
Sorry, totally unrelated to the POB, but you made me laugh so loud when you added this.
(one of my petpeeves atm as well)
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Old 10-08-2018, 09:31 AM
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Re: Got my Pak-o-bird

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Quote: Originally Posted by Inger View Post
Gorgeous! You know the piece of plastic in the bottom is held in with Velcro so you can pop it out for easy cleaning, right?


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It has a zipper all the way around the bottom so it wont fall out, but yes the plastic insert on the bottom should come out.

but it would not soak up um... liquid mess and it would end up in the fabric.
newspaper will soak up small amounts of liquid waste. For an extended trip and water in one of the bowels I would have to do something else. Perhaps several layers of paper towels. If going to the vet I would want to bring water along.. or a long car ride.
You might try small piddle pads or even baby diapers. Much more absorbent than newspaper and paper towels. If you are worried about chewing you might try a changing pad or mat.

Just a thought.
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Re: Got my Pak-o-bird

That looks great, and those linked pics of Bingo are terrific!!
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Re: Got my Pak-o-bird

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Gorgeous! You know the piece of plastic in the bottom is held in with Velcro so you can pop it out for easy cleaning, right?


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AHHHH! Thank you! I just got another little tip for building them!!!

I guess when I get home I'll post the photos of the one I built for everyone, as I've gotten a few PM's about it...It's really not that difficult at all to build one of these if you're even just a little bit handy...The most difficult part was finding the right type of backpack, as most of the backpacks now have tons and tons of little pockets everywhere, all over them, and what you need to build a Pak-O-Bird is a backpack that has one single, large compartment instead of a bunch of small pockets/pouches all over it, or one that has a large compartment, but the large compartment also has smaller compartments inside of it...That was the most frustrating part of this DIY project...

I ended-up finding a $30 Ozark Trail backpack at Walmart that was very plain and had one very large compartment, along with the common smaller pocket right on the front, which was removed anyway. The problem is that if you're wanting to make one for a larger bird, you'll end-up having to spend a larger amount of money on the backpack itself, because you'll have to buy a pack that is large enough, and those end-up being the more expensive hiking packs; the nice thing about using a larger hiking pack though is that many of them, even the cheaper ones, have an internal-frame located in the back panel, and if you make that back-panel the "door" to the pak and leave it solid, you already have a frame inside of it. So then it's simply a matter of removing all unnecessary pockets, pouches, zippers, etc., finding the right type of material to add to each side so that it is large enough to put both the "window" and the "frame" inside (I made the left, right, front, and top panels mesh windows, and left the bottom and the back solid, with the back being where the door is), and being able to use either a sewing machine or sewing them in by-hand, which is what I had to do, since I have no sewing machine...

I put the entire pak together first before cutting any windows in. So basically I had the entire pack with it's internal-frame in each panel, and each panel expanded a bit (specifically the top panel, as the backpack I used had a drawstring cinch instead of a zipper, so I had to basically sew-in a top panel, along with small interior pieces on each panel so that pockets/tunnels were created to insert the plastic frame pieces into)...Then after I basically had the entire pak completely finished without any windows, then it was quite easy to leave the frames in the pak so it was fully expanded, and only then did I draw my lines, cut my windows, and then sewed-in the wire-hardware-cloth/mesh...Then I finished the inside of the pack by lining the entire inside (except for the windows, obviously) with a nice, soft fleece material I got at Jo-Ann Fabrics, so that it not only looks good, but so it's all nice and soft, and safe, for the bird to be inside of. For the floor of the pak I first padded the bottom with a piece of hard foam, and then I sewed-in a piece of waterproof material that came from a waterproof "DryBag" that I bought at Walmart in the camping department; I stretched it tight, glued it down to the foam from the middle outward, let it dry completely, and then sewed the edges right into the seams that were already there, and pulled them extremely tight, so that the bottom and the seams around the bottom are waterproof and very easy to wipe up/clean...basically the part that took the longest amount of time was "finishing" the pak after it was all done, so that it looked good both inside and out, and so that the entire interior would be safe for the bird...

The whole thing cost me about $45 to make, and it turned out really very nice. I like doing DIY projects, so it wasn't so much about saving money as it was just seeing what I came up with, lol...

It would be much easier to make one out of a solid plastic, which is something I'm thinking about doing, I just need to come up with a good plan for it first...
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Re: Got my Pak-o-bird

sewing I something beyond both my wife and myself so a do-it-yourself project probably be beyond me.
But idea idea of using a backpack frame sounds like a winner.
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