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Old 10-15-2018, 04:26 PM
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Obesity

Well so apparently my amazon is starting to be a bit obese (I donít know how do we spell this word).
I wanted to ask you all how should I react and how to make him stop suffering from obesity I guess??
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Old 10-15-2018, 04:31 PM
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Re: Obesity

What's his current diet, what do you feed him now? Did you get this diagnosis from a vet?

A good quality pellet with a diverse array of mainly vegetables would be best for him to stay healthy. Fruits should be given sparingly since they have lots of sugar. No table food, no seeds, low fat nuts.
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Old 10-15-2018, 04:53 PM
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Re: Obesity

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What's his current diet, what do you feed him now? Did you get this diagnosis from a vet?

A good quality pellet with a diverse array of mainly vegetables would be best for him to stay healthy. Fruits should be given sparingly since they have lots of sugar. No table food, no seeds, low fat nuts.


Yes she did. She told me he is just starting so that we can stop it and that it might be because in the store he was just eating seeds (sunflower seeds mostly).

He eats a veggie and fruit chop in the morning, and then he has pellets available during the whole day and some seeds, because as you know he doesnít completely eat pellets yet.

So well he eats that, and sunflower seeds as treat.

How much food should I give him? I have always had this doubt and no one have ever answered me.. heís a blue fronted. So Iíd like to know how many times a day and how much food should I give him.. I give him like 2 table spoons of chop (half of his bowl) the morning and then I just leave pellets available the whole day.

Heís weighting 330gr.
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Re: Obesity

I mix just a handful of seed in with pellets for my YNA.
He has to pick through the pellets to find the seeds. He eats other stuff (corn on the cob, birdy bread and some veggies).
Unfortunately he is the biggest beggar for human food when he sees and hears us fixing and eating food. We try to avoid the worst stuff like salty foods but it aint easy.
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Re: Obesity

Before we start discussing weightloss and weighing every day ...
you are still talking about your baby-bird yes?

This one is not even done growing (it was hardly weaned when you got it)-
so I would say (and especially since your vet was spouting nonsense the last time you were there) ignore her and just feed your bird the healthy-stuff,
there are mealplans (what is good ot eat and what not) in the amazon-part of the forum.

A growing bird especially needs nutritional things (so: no peanuts or sunflowerseeds / save those for training if you bird doesn't want to work for anything else) not a strict weightloss-diet.
You are doing great with vegetables and pellets - just give you bird time..

Obese is NOT in numbers on a scale, it's mostly about "can you feel a fatty layer on/ around the keel",
some birds are larger than other birds, parent-raised-birds are generally speaking larger& heavier than the ones taken from the nest early or from incubators -> it's been that way for ages.


Your bird flies / is fully flighted -> that means is has more muscles (and muscles are heavy!) than a clipped, sitting down bird. So of course he is on the heavy side of the scale.

Japie gained about 30 grams since he learned to fly and he does not fly all that much, just short distances (a few metres at the time)

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Re: Obesity

Excellent information above!

A young BFA at 330 grams does not have a problem with Obesity, yet. As adult nominates, this large family of Blue-Fronted Amazons range from 375 to 550 grams depending on the sub-species.

The diet for a young Amazon includes a very wide and varied array of veggies and as stated a very limited amount of fruits (sugars). Regarding seeds; No Sun Flower Seeds (and its look a likes). But, the very wide and varied array of seeds, grains and low fat nuts are in fact good for the function of their crop and gut. Pellets can become a serious issue if the amount of protein and sugar is not closely monitored. Some types are high in both!

If you are providing Sunflower seed (and/or its look a likes) cut it out of the diet! Peanuts also need to be eliminated from the diet. Both are high in protein and lead to fatty liver problems and Obesity.

Get your Amazon moving around and keep food available all day long. Any Parrot that becomes fearful of starvation develops serious behavioral problems. Never limit the availability of food (low protein /low fat). Look at making foraging part of your Amazons busy day!

Please read with detail that Huge Thread in the Amazon Forum highlighted in light blue near the top of the page: I Love Amazons - ... Within that Huge Thread you will find Segments that speak to Diet and keeping an Amazon busy (flighted) and how.

NOTE: Any Time the Huge muscles of the chest drive the wings and as a result the compression of the Air Sacks strengthens the heart, air sacks and muscles of your Amazon. This uses vast reserves of energy and keeps you Amazon Healthy.


Even a walker and climber will be healthier than an Parrot which sits all day long!
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Re: Obesity

My yh Amazon was 500 grams at the vets and vet said he was fat. I'm trying to cut out the bad stuff

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Re: Obesity

Quote: Originally Posted by ChristaNL View Post
Before we start discussing weightloss and weighing every day ...
you are still talking about your baby-bird yes?

This one is not even done growing (it was hardly weaned when you got it)-
so I would say (and especially since your vet was spouting nonsense the last time you were there) ignore her and just feed your bird the healthy-stuff,
there are mealplans (what is good ot eat and what not) in the amazon-part of the forum.

A growing bird especially needs nutritional things (so: no peanuts or sunflowerseeds / save those for training if you bird doesn't want to work for anything else) not a strict weightloss-diet.
You are doing great with vegetables and pellets - just give you bird time..

Obese is NOT in numbers on a scale, it's mostly about "can you feel a fatty layer on/ around the keel",
some birds are larger than other birds, parent-raised-birds are generally speaking larger& heavier than the ones taken from the nest early or from incubators -> it's been that way for ages.


Your bird flies / is fully flighted -> that means is has more muscles (and muscles are heavy!) than a clipped, sitting down bird. So of course he is on the heavy side of the scale.

Japie gained about 30 grams since he learned to fly and he does not fly all that much, just short distances (a few metres at the time)


Yes the baby!
But my vet told me that we know when they start being obese when in the keel the shape starts to be more like an M, and it should be juste like half ball, I donít know if you understand me here..

And yes he is flighted and flies quite a lot.
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Re: Obesity

Quote: Originally Posted by SailBoat View Post
Excellent information above!

A young BFA at 330 grams does not have a problem with Obesity, yet. As adult nominates, this large family of Blue-Fronted Amazons range from 375 to 550 grams depending on the sub-species.

The diet for a young Amazon includes a very wide and varied array of veggies and as stated a very limited amount of fruits (sugars). Regarding seeds; No Sun Flower Seeds (and its look a likes). But, the very wide and varied array of seeds, grains and low fat nuts are in fact good for the function of their crop and gut. Pellets can become a serious issue if the amount of protein and sugar is not closely monitored. Some types are high in both!

If you are providing Sunflower seed (and/or its look a likes) cut it out of the diet! Peanuts also need to be eliminated from the diet. Both are high in protein and lead to fatty liver problems and Obesity.

Get your Amazon moving around and keep food available all day long. Any Parrot that becomes fearful of starvation develops serious behavioral problems. Never limit the availability of food (low protein /low fat). Look at making foraging part of your Amazons busy day!

Please read with detail that Huge Thread in the Amazon Forum highlighted in light blue near the top of the page: I Love Amazons - ... Within that Huge Thread you will find Segments that speak to Diet and keeping an Amazon busy (flighted) and how.

NOTE: Any Time the Huge muscles of the chest drive the wings and as a result the compression of the Air Sacks strengthens the heart, air sacks and muscles of your Amazon. This uses vast reserves of energy and keeps you Amazon Healthy.


Even a walker and climber will be healthier than an Parrot which sits all day long!


Gonna search that post thank you!


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Re: Obesity

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My yh Amazon was 500 grams at the vets and vet said he was fat. I'm trying to cut out the bad stuff

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But a yellow headed is bigger than a blue fronted right? I donít see it fat for him 500gr.
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