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Old 11-17-2018, 07:59 AM
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Hi! We adopted Baya from a parrot rescue one week ago, and I've been giving him some time to settle before starting what I hope will be an ongoing thread.

Baya is a 27-year-old male. We are his third family, but I don't get the feeling he was with the second family for very long. It sounds like his original owner got sick and placed him with a friend, who developed allergies and mainly kept him out on a sun porch. As a result, Baya has gotten a little chubby. We're working on it with diet and exercise. He does enjoy fresh fruit, especially raspberries (I think it's the potential for making excellent messes). I don't have a great sense for his personality yet, although he seems pretty laid back, social and generally happy.

Baya has slowly been trying out new sounds, especially on my pre-teen son, who Baya thinks is the greatest thing since Zupreem pellets. Unfortunately, Baya gets overstimulated very quickly (works himself into a state) when my boy is around, so we're going to work on that. They enjoy shouting at each other. Sometimes Baya busts out a killer vibrato.

I've been bitten once. He was calmly sitting on my arm when someone came through the front door, startling us both. Since Baya doesn't seem flighted (I read Boat's essay on this, and will be talking to the vet to make a plan), he lashed out and I was the nearest bite-able object.

He didn't seem like he was getting enough sleep with a sheet over his cage, so I made him a cage cover that gives him lots of airflow, but is light-blocking. With the sheet, he was gabbing and calling. With the new cover, he quieted right down and we didn't hear a peep from him all night (just chewing on his food). I was warned he'll be hormonal this time of year, and read the thread about the importance of sleep, so hopefully his new cage cover encourages better rest.



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Old 11-17-2018, 08:23 AM
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Re: Baya! A DYH Amazon

Congratulations and thank you for adopting! Baya sounds like an amazing new addition to your family. At the young age of twenty-seven, a healthier diet and added exercise should make a positive difference for years to come. Looking forward to hearing more as Baya's story unfolds.
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Old 11-17-2018, 08:34 AM
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Re: Baya! A DYH Amazon

Hi Jen, we're almost neighbors (sw NH) As you read in the sleep post parrots need a good 12-14 hours of dark, quiet sleep time. Shortening the amount of daylight he sees also tells his body that it's winter and not mating season. There are a lot of things you can do to positively affect his hormonal behavior. I know you're not touching him yet but when you do stay above the neck line. You can also reduce the protein in his diet when you're expecting a hormonal period...again telling his body that food is scarce and not a good time for mating. For me and Nike, sleep and being flighted were the number one things that changed Nike's behavior. There's tons of info on this forum and the internet in general on hormonal behavior and what to do about it.

As for the displacement bite, been there, got the tee shirt. There's not much you can do about it except realize the threat and especially for a new to you parrot, keep him off your shoulder and away from your ears. While my Nike never really bites hard anymore there are still things that trigger her into displacement biting and we mostly try to avoid those situations...but even a light bite on the ear hurts and draws blood.

We've had Nike for close to three years now and she has not learned any words from us, just sounds. Every once in a while a new verbal sound comes out of her but it's just things she learned in the past surfacing for the first time. At 27 years old he may have a large vocabulary just waiting to bust out.

Congrats on the rescue and the new fid.
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Old 11-17-2018, 09:00 AM
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Re: Baya! A DYH Amazon

Welcome to Parrot Forums! And, the Wonderful World of Amazons!
We are also a DYH owned household, welcome to the DYH family.

Clearly you have taken the time read both highlighted Threads at the top of the Amazon Forum and thank-you for spending your time reading those Threads.
I continue to find that the combination of limited sleep and Sugar results in a hormonal DYH Amazon. Our Julio is having a mild 'season,' but as a member of the Big Hot Three Amazons (BFA, YNA, & DYHA), even a mild season can also include Wild Moments. His love is Apples and if one is not especially careful he is not beyond helping himself. The end result is that we seriously reduce the Sugar in 'all' parts of his diet. Fruits as a group are high in Sugar and can only spirit on a hormonal event.

Also, understanding that the Hot Three are prone to being easily spun into an 'overload' event. It is very important to be mindful /watchful of your DYH during this time of year. FYI: This group of Amazons can be brought into an 'overload' state any time of the year when they become overly excited during play, interaction, etc. Add, limited sleep and/or a Sugar high and you have an Amazon Spinning Out of Control!

The safest and most successful way of dealing with an Amazon that is Spinning up or already over the top is to simply back away and give them room. It Is Very Important To Understand That At This Point It Is All Chemically Driven And They Are Not In Control Of It!

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Re: Baya! A DYH Amazon

Thanks for sharing your photo! Baya is a real beauty!
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Re: Baya! A DYH Amazon

What a stunning DYH! You and family will have a blast with him!
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Old 11-24-2018, 11:59 AM
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Re: Baya! A DYH Amazon

Well, the honeymoon is definitely over!!

This week, Baya went from adoring my son and being OK with me, to trying to murder me at every available opportunity. He bit me a few times - the last time when I was offering him a grape and he charged across his cage top and latched onto my finger. Ever since, I have been more cautious! My son, on the other hand, seems to have become his object of absolute affection.

From reading topics in the forums, reading a good chunk of The Beak Book, and from talking to my local parrot experts / trainers, I've set some rules. I'm the only one to take Baya in and out of his cage (he attacks the stick), and I'm the only one to give him treats. Yesterday, he climbed down from his cage onto the floor and marched off on a mission to find my son. The area he went into wasn't entirely safe (there's a gate, but I'm in the process of replacing it with a custom-build with a plexiglass barrier attached, and I was concerned he might slide through the bars, directly into the dogs ). When I tried to retrieve him with the stick, he went after my feet, causing me to dance quite spectacularly.

We've started target training, and had one successful session, and one that was ruined before it started by my son deciding that THAT was the exact moment he needed to start whistling. We were on another floor (away from his cage and comfort zone) with the door closed, but it wasn't enough. As soon as Baya heard him, all bets were off. I tried to distract him, but it was over almost before it began, so I brought him back down to his cage to wait until a calmer time.

I also introduced more vegetables this week --> we had been trying raw carrots, cauliflower and broccoli, which were greeted in a "meh" kind of manner. I was eating mac & cheese at the table when Baya charged the bowl with excitement (I did not share), so I more recently tried mixing cooked spinach, peas and corn with a bit of elbow macaroni. He makes noises while eating this mixture like it's the greatest day of his life.

One potential bright spot - he sometimes lunges at me through the bars, but if I hold his beak gently for a second and then stroke his head, he'll usually lower it and allow me to scratch his head for a little while before he remembers that he hates me.
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Re: Baya! A DYH Amazon

Nice pic of your DYH. I love them, but they seem , as a group, to hate me on sight.
Training - it may help if you set aside a set time to do your training with Baya. Example, we do our training with Salty at 8:45 to around 9:15PM, after he has had dinner and relaxed a bit. Every night, religiously.
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Re: Baya! A DYH Amazon

There are a lot of hormonal parrots right now , my quaker male included. So that might be a factor?
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Old 11-24-2018, 05:42 PM
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Quote: Originally Posted by Laurasea View Post
There are a lot of hormonal parrots right now , my quaker male included. So that might be a factor?
Yeah, could be! I'm inclined to think he may have decided Josh is his mate, and is therefore trying drive me away.
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