??? on weight..

AmyMyBlueFront · Nov 28, 2018

… y'all know I've been very diligent with weighing the kid's now. I'm trying to get a system down and keep with it..I weigh both of them before brekky and after their morning boon,then in the evening I do it again.

Last night before Amy went to bed,and before she had her night time snack she weighed exactly 500g's,a lot better than the 548 she weighed at the Cav's six months ago.
Tonight at 5:45 EST she was weighed again. She hadn't had anything to munch on since noonish and she was at 511g's

The scale was zero'd out..BB didn't have his finger on plate

and neither did I and I don't really think if she was retaining a boon,that it weighed 11g's!.

Any ideas folks?

Jim

Laurasea · Nov 28, 2018

My bird go up and down by 4 grams so maybe for your bigger bird that's normal

AmyMyBlueFront · Nov 28, 2018

Laurasea said:
My bird go up and down by 4 grams so maybe for your bigger bird that's normal

11g's in 24 hrs?

Jim

Laurasea · Nov 28, 2018

Ya, that's what I thought about 4 grams!!! Cuz they be way smaller than yours, I have a dish I weigh to check the scale, and I weigh them daily (mostly)

AmyMyBlueFront · Nov 28, 2018

Laurasea said:
Ya, that's what I thought about 4 grams!!! Cuz they be way smaller than yours, I have a dish I weigh to check the scale, and I weigh them daily (mostly)

I'll ask the CAV about it Friday..

Jim

noodles123 · Nov 28, 2018

As a human, my weight can fluctuate 10 lbs within a day..no joke..Enough liquids +foods or dehydration without food can make a huge difference...among other things LOL. I know that sounds like a lot, and I am a "slim" person...but assuming birds are similar, the 11 point jump is likely no concern.

I am sure it is fine and that it is not fat...do check with the vet, but I imagine a lot of benign things could cause that increase.

chris-md · Nov 28, 2018

Idea? Don’t weigh so frequently!

Amy isn’t a newborn chick you have to monitor to ensure they are constantly gaining weight.

Truth is, the whole point of weighing with some frequency is to follow trends. Weight Trends in a Sick bird play out over a week or more, not half a day.

You’re going to see these anomalies from time to time, and if you try to account for all of them every time you’re going to drive yourself crazy! Readings like this are nothing more than background noise to a larger trend. Also, too many data points create too much noise. You might as well be measuring every hour for all the good it does you.

Try weighing no more than once a week, before breakfast. I’d only do More than that if you actively suspect something wrong.

Otherwise your gonna drive yourself crazy! I’d be even happier if you cut it to once a week.

<3 <3

TiredOldMan · Nov 28, 2018

Mine at times vary by as much as 20g. It all depends on afternoon snacks and the supper they eat.

Yes I weight every morning before breakfast and after "bombs away".

AmyMyBlueFront · Nov 28, 2018

chris-md said:
Idea? Don’t weigh so frequently!

Amy isn’t a newborn chick you have to monitor to ensure they are constantly gaining weight.

Truth is, the whole point of weighing with some frequency is to follow trends. Weight Trends in a Sick bird play out over a week or more, not half a day.

You’re going to see these anomalies from time to time, and if you try to account for all of them every time you’re going to drive yourself crazy! Readings like this are nothing more than background noise to a larger trend. Also, too many data points create too much noise. You might as well be measuring every hour for all the good it does you.

Try weighing no more than once a week, before breakfast. I’d only do More than that if you actively suspect something wrong.

Otherwise your gonna drive yourself crazy! I’d be even happier if you cut it to once a week.

<3 <3

Gotcha Chris! I guess because it's a new scale and I'm trying to improve their diet I'm just getting carried away

Jim

SailBoat · Nov 28, 2018

I fully agree with those above that are favoring that early morning weight session. During the day will not support an understanding of trends or highlight a developing issue.

Everyday with a sick parrot or when one is working to first control and then reduce weight is wise. Once a week is my standard for a healthy parrot as it provides a check point.

A schedule that includes both early morning and another times during any day, as so well stated above, will drive you crazy. The vast swings of a Larger Amazon can be as much as 25+ grams as Amazons love to eat and can also hold vast amounts of stool. The combination of a full track and crop plus a large stool can result in that kind of difference. Remember that 25 grams on a 500 gram base Amazon is as small as 5 grams on a 100 gram Parrot.

Please remember to keep a record of Amy's weight! Keeping that daily and later weekly record is important. Your taking the weight every morning, and early is something that I see as important and is helpful for your CAV. You will be creating a trend map. As so clearly stated above, day to day is far less important than the trend. At this point, IMHO, daily is the correct schedule. As Amy's health improves and as the weight range is found, then cut back.

The Great Dangers Of The New Hammer!

AmyMyBlueFront · Nov 28, 2018

SailBoat said:
I fully agree with those above that are favoring that early morning weight session. During the day will not support an understanding of trends or highlight a developing issue.

Everyday with a sick parrot or when one is working to first control and then reduce weight is wise. Once a week is my standard for a healthy parrot as it provides a check point.

A schedule that includes both early morning and another times during any day, as so well stated above, will drive you crazy. The vast swings of a Larger Amazon can be as much as 25+ grams as Amazons love to eat and can also hold vast amounts of stool. The combination of a full track and crop plus a large stool can result in that kind of difference. Remember that 25 grams on a 500 gram base Amazon is as small as 5 grams on a 100 gram Parrot.

Please remember to keep a record of Amy's weight! Keeping that daily and later weekly record is important. Your taking the weight every morning, and early is something that I see as important and is helpful for your CAV. You will be creating a trend map. As so clearly stated above, day to day is far less important than the trend. At this point, IMHO, daily is the correct schedule. As Amy's health improves and as the weight range is found, then cut back.

The Great Dangers Of The New Hammer!

Thank you 'Boats. I am keeping a daily journal of both of their weights for further reference. Because Amy is "ill" ( her heart problem) and I have just recently redone their diet,especially Amys', I guess I may be a little paranoid about her health and that's probably why I'm weighing both of them so often,plus I love the new scale

I'm now waiting for the freeze-dried chop to arrive lol.
I will ask the CAV Friday about what she suggests.
Again,thank you my friend.

Jim

Anansi · Nov 28, 2018

I tend to weigh everyday, though it is admittedly overkill. And yes, my birds can sometimes swing upward by 20 grams in 24 hours. Often it depends on what they are eating. I know their weights are going to be ridiculous any time they have oatmeal. That's usually where the big fluctuations come from. Or on those rare occasions where I'm caught without chop and have to heat up some frozen veggies. I don't know why, but they really pack on the grams with that stuff.

charmedbyekkie · Nov 28, 2018

Yep, 20g variation is normal, even when consistently weighing at the same time each day. I just make sure Cairo keeps within a certain range, for him right now it's 400g, +/- 20g (380-420g). I'm happiest when he's close to 400g, and I try to offer him more of his favourite fruits (he's on a predominately veggie diet) if he drops below 380g.

Our vet said to just keep checking his keel bone to know if he's over- or under-weight since they can poop out ~5g each time

Keel bone and droppings (if the faeces looks sparse, etc)

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