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Old 01-23-2019, 08:55 AM
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Re: Looking for advice

Hello again,

Looking for the best advice on this topic now. We are still considering adopting JoJo the amazon. We go tonight to speak with staff and spend more time with him. However we are wondering a few things. If we do take him home we want to upgrade his cage to a larger set up. Would it be best to have the initial few days/weeks to adjust then transfer him? Or do you let him transfer on his own terms? Also do most people transfer their birds home for the first time in a carrier like a dog crate? Or do you leave them in their cage?

Looking for the best routes for him mentally and physically.
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Old 01-23-2019, 04:18 PM
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Re: Looking for advice

I have a travel cage for Sam that I use to transport him wherever he needs to go. That being said, I used to think that the best way to get a parrot used to a new cage was to allow him to move over on his own. Since I have had Sam 36 years, we have had quite a few cages. Now, I get the new cage and allow him to watch us build it. Then, we plunk him down and within a day he is comfortable. It helps that we move all of his favorite toys onto the new cage. He will kill for his bells, so where they go, he goes.

If you are going to get a new cage for JoJo, bring him home in the old one. Give him a couple of weeks to get used to the new house, then build the new one in the room with him. Start moving his toys and food, and before you know it, he will be on the new one and happy. They are actually incredibly versatile and able to adjust to new things pretty well. I have a feeling that you will have a long and happy life with your new parrot.
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Old 01-23-2019, 05:42 PM
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Re: Looking for advice

I had no real choice, so I just plopped my U2 on top of her new cage as soon as we got home (as she was SUPER eager to get out of her dog carrier). I made sure I had her familiar food in there etc (in her home cage) and limited the number of "scary" toys inside. It worked for me, but that was a weird scenario anyway. There are some youtube videos on other ways to do this as well (many say to line up the open cage door of one with the other...just depends on bird age etc). Mine was in a dog carrier with a dowel perch drilled inside of it. I took her out and transferred her immediately to her new home because she wanted out anyway and she happened to step up (which didn't happen again for another 3 months lol!)

I got a new travel cage that I used for future trips (due to negative associations with the old dog crate one that she came home in). I put the new one by her cage for weeks and eventually started putting treats on it etc so that she was more familiar (I have never tried to make he go back into the old). Then, despite my intentions to make her comfortable in the new one, we had a bit of an emergency and I ended up putting her in before she ever went in herself, but I didn't have to towel her.. It was stressful, so if you have the luxury, get your bird used to whatever travel cage you plan to use long-term as soon as you can (preferably before a broken blood feather/vet emergency etc).

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Old 01-23-2019, 06:15 PM
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Re: Looking for advice

Don't transport in the cage. They fall off perches things crash around, things can collapse...
I moved mine right to a new cage and she freaked!!! A quaker but still.. I think you can put the new next to the old one as soon as you like, but let them transfer on their own. Just give the new guy lots of patience as he adjusts to all the changes. There can be some acting out, don't hold that against him, or think oh no he is so different now that he's home. He might just need a bit to get the hang of you all. Or he could just jump in like he always lived with you
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Old 01-23-2019, 07:12 PM
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Re: Looking for advice

Being an "Amazon Snob" myself for nearly three decades,Amy picked me to go home with when he was just four months old..if my guesstimation is right,he turned 29 this month. I don't think I read what type of Amazon you were considering? Of the "hot three" being Double Yellowhead,Yellow Nape,and Blue Fronted,I have seen more Blue Fronts on this great forum..maybe I'm just watching for them!
Like humans,all parrots have their own "birdonality". Some are loud,some talk,others dance and sing.Some BITE others are gentle souls. They can,and do,read us like a book. They can sense our own emotions and act accordingly. They ALL need socialization! Nothing puts a huge on my face more,than when Amy and I go for a ride in the car,to the store,to the donut shop,to the town hall etc etc and he is on my shoulder,eyes wide open,mumbling in amazon speak,and talking to anyone who pays attention to him..and when its time to go home,he'll nuzzle his beaky to my cheek,preen my beard,and do soft coo's in my ear..saying "thanks dad,for bringing me out today"


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Old 01-24-2019, 05:50 AM
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Re: Looking for advice

I didn't mean actually bring him home in the old one! LOL I just meant let him live in it for a while before you get a new one. I can't imaging bringing an Amazon home in a cage. I would need a tractor trailer!!!!
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Old 01-24-2019, 09:19 AM
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Re: Looking for advice

Thank you everyone for the help. We are also talking about a Blue Fronted Amazon I believe....he has the blue markings just around his beak.

I was able to visit with him more last night. Saturday we will be able to get him out of the cage to interact. I look forward to this to see if a connection can be made. While we visited he didn't show much interest in my daughter. He just watched her but could care less. With me he said hello, made some gurgling noises, gently took peanuts and peppers from my hand, and ducked his head down and stretched out his wings. I'm not sure if this was showing off or a defense response. I'm still trying to understand the body language. Our entire visit though his eyes were never pinned and he seemed very relaxed. He spent his time between dipping his food in water and snacking and being puffed up closing his eyes like he was tired.

The shelter was able to share with me more details on his past. He lived with a younger male who he was very bonded with, he loves fruit, loves to fly, and he has since been effected by leaving his owner. His owner sadly committed suicide and I'm wondering if JoJo some how witnessed it. A friend ended up with JoJo and she said he behaved well. He was friendly with adults and children, rode the dogs back (scary thought), and gives gentle but firm warning bites. He is a yeller when hes bored but to be fair hes cage is lacking interesting toys.

Now that is what the shelter was given for background information. Being in a small town though we quickly made connections back to his owner. A friend of his owner had nothing nice to say about JoJo. They basically were appalled the shelter would classify him as a sweet bird. They more referenced him to a sadistic animal. In their words he had to be locked up when visitors were over because he was so aggressive, he was overly protective of his owner, and would "attack female voices". I am taking these remarks with a grain of salt.

Birds in general especially large ones come with a certain demand for respect and knowledge. From my experience people rarely read or respect an animals ques or personal space. When you throw a cute exotic animal into the picture I imagine its only amplified. I'm wondering if JoJo's needs were perhaps not properly controlled with visitors or if negative behavior was handled poorly?

With that said we talked as a family about this new information. It hasn't deterred us because we realize not everyone is aware on how to handle these birds. We ourselves have no large bird experience but we are doing our fair share of research to at least respect boundaries. The parrot handbook arrived and I have been reading it. It gives great insight to birds and their needs. I'm gaining a whole new understanding of what it means to live along side birds. I plan to start applying these tools to our Cockatiel we adopted not long ago. Hes an aggressive little monster but its clear its a big show based on fear.
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Old 01-24-2019, 10:15 AM
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Re: Looking for advice

I had an OWA that was all show when strangers were over. He would fluff and lunge. When anyone came near his cage, though, he would run for the hills. Often found him hiding behind a rope toy or such, peaking out to see if the big scary person was still there. It was actually quite cute.

Nobody can know a parrot until they live with him or her. They are incredibly intelligent, loyal and difficult individuals. Your life will never be boring, but I cannot see a bird who receives love and care from you not responding in kind. The one thing to remember is that it may take time, a loooooong time before you can develop a relationship with any bird, especially an older bird who had a family before.
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Old 01-24-2019, 01:49 PM
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Re: Looking for advice

I'm currently getting my googling in for food options. Locally we don't have a lot of great large bird dietary options. Its hard to say what hes currently on but it looks like higgins vitaseed blend. It looks like he picks out all of the dried fruits/veggies first. I did however see him eat multiple pellets from the mix when I visited. He is dipping all his snacks in water before eating which creates a huge mess but is intriguing to watch!

We currently get our animals their food from Chewy. I've looked into pellet options that they have on there and I'm leaning towards the brand Higgins Intune. Is there any pellets anyone would recommend? I've read switching diets is a long process in the bird world. I'm ok with this but ultimately want him on a good pellet to pair with his fresh foods.
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Old 01-24-2019, 02:30 PM
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Well I just got the surprise of a life time. My husband just broke down and told me he filled foster paperwork out for JoJo and we bring him home Saturday. If things progress positively we will adopt him. If not we will foster him until he does go home. Little shocked to say the least.

Any quick advice for this idiot to prepare us for Saturday? Here I thought I was going in to socialize outside cage time...really I'm going in to bring home a foster/potential new family member. Now I really need to track down the necessities like food and toys.
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