Breeding Amazon's

moon1964

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So the last time I was here I was having issues with my blue front (blue). Being very aggressive towards me. So I separated the Amazon's. Prob still exists and now in thinking of putting them back into the same cage and letting nature take it course.
I have a question though. If I do that will my other bird the double yellow head (angel) get aggressive towards me to. Right now she's my bud
 
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moon1964

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So still having aggression problems with blue
 

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Its very likely that Angel could become aggressive towards you especially if they start a nest. I highly recommend keeping them separated and continue to work with Blue. Breeding is a lot of commitment and a lot can go wrong, I wouldn't do it without extensive research and another breeder nearby just encase things go wrong, they could help you out.
 

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Hormonal Amazons in this kind of situation is one dangerous place to be for Humans. And, yes the 'group' will be at a higher base level.

Kindly separate the group! Back-off all sugar /fruit loaded products (including some Pellets)!

Amazons are not the Parrot Species one learns breeding with! In the worst case, they can kill each other and seriously injury Humans.
 
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right now my poor angel is humping the food dish every time i let her out of the cage...and the bottom of the cage when inside...makes Blue very loud and (looks like he's raving mad)...not sure what to do..
good point dont want them to kill each other..and just ordered some other pellets for them...an other advise you can give me is greatly appreciated
 

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'Nature taking its course' could mean you could end up with dead or seriously injured birds. I would keep them separated as breeding in general is difficult even with small birds, let alone the big guys!

Best to leave the breeding to the experts. You would need a lot of equipment to begin breeding and that's not even guaranteeing they would breed at all. The bigger species are generally MUCH harder to breed then say, budgies or cockatiels. I would not attempt it. Not to mention you have two different species and would be creating a hybrid between the double yellow head and blue front, which is frowned upon in most parrot world. Also, yes this would likely create aggression from your yellow head towards you so you wouldn't have toe same bond as you did before.
 
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Not sure what sleep schedule you are using.
When attempting to reduce the Hormonal Flow, increasing dark (sleeping) period helps slow the chemical flow. Looking a 14 or more hours of dark (sleeping) will help.

The activities that you are listing are 'common' sexual activities.

- What sleep schedule are you using?
- What are you typical feeding your Amazons?
- When was the last time your Amazons visited their Avian Professional?
 
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about a year ago at the vet..all is well except blue has this puffy spot under his right ear. vet could come up with any cause and he is not in pain so we are leaving that alone..both birds are on pellets and seed and other food when out of cage. as for sleeping schedule..they usually want back in the cages around dusk. but lately because of the screaming blue makes they sometimes go earlier and get covered..
from what i have been reading is not to give them anything to chew up on the bottom of cage.. with angel if i dont she has and will again start breaking the welds of the grate .. so they get bark to chew up. i am currently changing out there pellets for a better brand and im going to start trying to give them birdy bread and chop
 
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they were together and she did lay a few eggs but because she did so from a high perch they broke when landing at the bottom
 

Birdmom12

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We have just the one Amazon but shes very hormonal and very sexual in her behaviors. Shes been this way since we adopted her a few months back. We asked a behaviorist how to help with these behaviors. A lot of it comes down to journal keeping. Write down what they do before the behavior starts, what happened during, who was where, what was going on in the room etc... Our journal is for aggression but also for constant masturbating.

Once you find the triggers you can work on preventing them. Our triggers were sleep, toys, cage placement, and over stimulated from a person (me her hated human). During hormone season progress moves at a snail pace so be patient. So far we have had great progress with 1- getting her 11 hours of sleep (wakes up much happier) This means no lights, no sound, we actually have a sleep cage for ours in a spare bedroom. 2- we move her day cage around from room to room. This helps remove territory aggression, as well as making life more interesting. 3- toys- we now rotate toys better, we also created our own foraging toys. (wooden blocks with holes drilled in them, nuts are crammed into the hole. She now has to spend the day working for treats. She chips away at the wood. This help stimulate her mind, keep her busy, and offers a reward. Its also a healthy way to release aggression)

I personally wouldn't breed or allow them to breed. There are so many displaced birds in rescues currently. I also see how our bird tries to "mate" with my husband and I can see the stress it causes.(and its not an over night fix to correct this, its months of training)
 
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the same cage thing was a thought...My thinking was maybe they would both be happier if put back together, their cages are side by side. I see now im glad i didnt do that. masturbation act is like 3 times a day...morn, noon, and evening.
 

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