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Old 06-15-2019, 04:42 AM
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Angry “Is he a jerk?”

Having trouble sleeping so I thought I’d tell you guys about yesterdays happenings when Kiwi came out with us. Joe needed a haircut, so I told him to just drop “us” off while he went to get his haircut and we could amuse ourselves for a while in the shopping center. As per usual, Kiwi was getting lots of attention, hamming it up for people and I was fielding the usual “oh is it a parrot?” “Boy or girl” “how old” type questions I always get while he’s out with me. Then I got caught off guard with a question I have never got before in the 5 summers he’s been going out and about in his pak-o-bird: some lady asked me a couple typical questions then actually complimented his backpack before asking me out of nowhere “ooooh he must be a jerk?” I guess she thought because he was in a backpack protected from actual jerks trying to touch him that *HE* must be the jerk? Poor Kiwi, he’s always so happy and interactive with people out in public, never acting aggressively or like he would bite if he could. He understands he’s safe in his POB and therefore enjoys the interactions without fear of being accosted by a stranger. I’ve never had anyone, even obviously non bird people, take his happy, excited behavior as aggressive/mean. Insulting my very well behaved, friendly, obviously loved and well cared for bird just irked me

On a happier note, Kiwi came into a grocery store yesterday. There is a health food store that has a almost mini restaurant type deal inside where you can order sandwiches, stir fry bowls, pizza, burgers etc... Anyways, it was really hot and the sun was at that point it would have just been beating into the car even with the AC on so we snuck him inside in a cart I’ve seen people in there with dogs before hat were, ahem, clearly NOT “service animals” so we figured popping in to grab dinner to go would be fine. I don’t think I’ve seen wider eyes on a parrot before than coming into a palace of food. He didn’t do the incognito thing very well due to all the very excited noises emanating from the cart When we got to the register to pay, the guy ringing us up said “oh I saw him while I was on my lunch break”. We explained it was just too hot to stay with him in the car and he was totally fine with it/understood. Not sure we’ll be doing that again but it was pretty funny. I felt like a real lawbreaker sneaking my bird into a food establishment
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Old 06-15-2019, 07:02 AM
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Re: “Is he a jerk?”

Aaaa, the Masses are Horse's Rear-Ends!
And, the question of 'his' being the 'jerk' defines the continued lack of knowledge that exists in the general public. Add the ever failing social skills and we find ourselves where we are today. When out and about, we all are faced with those people! Expecting it is a reality of life.

The 'service animal' and the 'pocket pups' have become so common place that a Parrot in a backpack is just another animal joining the crowd. So, no reason to feel uncomfortable about being out and about!

An Amazon in the center of all that food! Big eyes must be follow by big noise. Its just an Amazon Thing!!!

Have fun with it! Locking an Amazon away takes all the fun out of life!

Stories of Julio traveling in the SUV (glass mobile) abound! I run cruse control and the number of cars and other glass mobiles, plus semi's that float around 'us' to get a double and triple look is amusing.
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Old 06-15-2019, 07:17 AM
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Re: “Is he a jerk?”

I guess it all comes down to how it was said (tone) and the age of the woman who said it.

I think people sometimes use the word "jerk" in an almost playful way---like "a pain in the a**" or "a handful"...Especially people 60+.
In my personal opinion, most parrots (from a human perspective) are, lovingly, jerks...If said with a smile, she may have just been saying it in the same way that people say "my little monsters" etc when talking about their kids...
OR, maybe she really was totally awkward and socially clueless and meant exactly what she said...haha!

If you Google "Parrots are jerks" there is actually an entire Youtube montage (I would post it here if it weren't for the fact that it contains very unsafe proximity between birds and cats etc)-- but it is certainly meant with affection by the person who created the montage.

Either way, I guess at least she didn't just assume that he was super sweet and try to touch him or get in his face like so many people do.

I wish I could get a decent backpack for Noodles..I feel like A) She would be super freaked out by something like that and B) I would end up going to the grocery store and looking like I was going on a backpacking trip through Nepal (carrying a 4 ft pack on my back lol!)---Slightly LESS conspicuous.

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Old 06-15-2019, 09:36 AM
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Re: “Is he a jerk?”

Amy and I have been to a couple food establishments,one particular place my brother frequents has a bar where you can also order lunch/dinner. They allow Amy in and he is either on my shoulder or on his perch stick. I get the same questions you do April,and when they hear him talk (which he does cause he is excited to see new faces) any concerns usually go right out the window

However,one day we were at our local Dunkin Donuts and this "elderly" woman absolutely freaked the heck out! I could hear her muttering under her breath to her friend ' Did you see that THING that man has with him??" " I can't BELIEVE they allow him to bring that THING in here!" "So unsanitary with all the FOOD here!"

Can't do much about "jerks" April lol they are everywhere! ( And I certainly don't mean the FEATHERED ones either! )

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Old 06-15-2019, 10:04 AM
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Re: “Is he a jerk?”

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I guess it all comes down to how it was said (tone) and the age of the woman who said it.
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She was my age (late 20s/early 30s) and trust me, it was definitely the way she said it Insinuating my bird must be too mean to ride around on my shoulder (and probably slightly upset there would be no photo op for her holding the cool looking parrot, she struck me as the type).

I know there are a few bird owners whose birds (seems to be mostly Big Macs) *like* being handled by strangers and people get neat photos with the birds etc... (which is obviously totally fine if the bird enjoys that kind of interaction) but I think it leaves some people thinking any big bird they see in public enjoys that kind of thing or, you know, why else would it be out in public and not locked away in its cage at home?
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Re: “Is he a jerk?”

That's so annoying---especially because you were doing other people a favor by keeping your bird in a carrier (not because your bird is bad, but because some people are scared and due to safety issues). No selfie---darn!

I would say Noodles is very social in an unfamiliar space (as long as she has time to adjust) but annoyingly, people just assume that because I can touch her than they can come up and pet her, and it's like they can't imagine the harm because she lets me get away with a lot...She also sometimes "tests" new people after acting sweet, so I wouldn't want a stranger picking her up (hello law-suit).
I took her to work the other day and she was out on her perch. Some adults just walked right up and began to reach (as though they were kids!). I generally put a new person's hand in mine when they pet her for the first time, and if she looks back at my hand a lot, I know they are a poor candidate for petting her unassisted lol. She does sometimes warm up to certain people rather quickly (as long as I am present), and if I know the person (and they are an adult), I will basically say, handle at your own risk (knowing that the risk is lower if she is actively trying to get them to pick her up). In order for a kid to hold her, I would say that they would have to be calm, 8 years+ and with bird experience..plus fatter fingers and very understanding parents lol!---Just in case.

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Re: “Is he a jerk?”

Kermit (GCC) is very comfortable being handled by strangers when he’s out and about on his harness. It’s not just big birds — people seem very interested in Kermit too. He steps up for everyone including small children, and lots of people take pictures with him. If he ever feels threatened, he just flies right back to me. A few times little kids tried to grab him but he just flew to me for safety. People always ask “is it real?” and “what kind of bird is that?” but everyone always thinks he’s super friendly. He’s never bitten anyone hard, even when they try to pet him and he doesn’t want them to he just gives little warning nips.
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However,one day we were at our local Dunkin Donuts and this "elderly" woman absolutely freaked the heck out! I could hear her muttering under her breath to her friend ' Did you see that THING that man has with him??" " I can't BELIEVE they allow him to bring that THING in here!" "So unsanitary with all the FOOD here!"

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Shame that “thing” didn’t go leave a special “gift” on the lady’s table Maybe it was the toxoplasmosis in her brain from her 57 cats at home

I understand people being concerned wild birds could spread disease, I am too (same goes for ANY wild animal) but pet birds who are clearly trained and well cared for? I don’t understand why they think they’d be any more riddled with filth and disease than any other pet Honestly, I can think of no other pet that requires weekly if not multiple times a week baths either. And they don’t stink, not even their poop, unless they’re seriously ill and in need of an emergency vet visit. Nor do they drool or produce saliva (which I think is so gross when those certain breeds of dogs are slobbering everywhere). Besides the whole food flinging/wood chewing thing, they’re actually very clean animals.
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Shame that “thing” didn’t go leave a special “gift” on the lady’s table Maybe it was the toxoplasmosis in her brain from her 57 cats at home


LOOOOOOLLLLLL---You know that parasite actually makes people more obsessed with cats? Infected rats are actually drawn to the scent of cat urine etc (when healthy rats avoid it)! So gross and weird... In other words, many "cat people" are MADE by cats haha! Nothing against cats...just saying!
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The 'service animal' and the 'pocket pups' have become so common place that a Parrot in a backpack is just another animal joining the crowd. So, no reason to feel uncomfortable about being out and about!

Have fun with it! Locking an Amazon away takes all the fun out of life!
I guess because I’m not a dog person an not too fond when I see (non service) dogs in grocery stores and restaurants, I try to be respectful some people are not bird people. I don’t worry about any other kind of store/business, just food ones. Though, it’s gotten to the point I wonder why I’m the only one trying to be respectful of others feelings about my pet because Portland is so “pet friendly” there are hardly any establishments you don’t see dogs in anymore.

As mentioned earlier this week, locking away an amazon (or simply not being up to your normal level of interaction) comes with consequences. Like bird poop on your shoe
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