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Old 09-11-2019, 10:47 AM
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Re: Stunted or Petite?

Noted that I never really covered your key question: Stunted or Petite?
Your Amazon is a flier and if the age is correct, it would be fair to say that Petite fits the pictures. As long as your Amazon is eating and has dry food available during the day, that should not be a point of concern as you have a couple of growth periods ahead over the next 12 months.
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Re: Stunted or Petite?

From Google looks like a Yellow Fronted Amazon..
But I don't have Amazon experience, so defer to the Amazon experts
But your birdooks very healthy and happy
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Re: Stunted or Petite?

Quote: Originally Posted by Laurasea View Post
From Google looks like a Yellow Fronted Amazon..
But I don't have Amazon experience, so defer to the Amazon experts
But your birdooks very healthy and happy
I have no amazon experiece either but I'm sure one thing - in this age yellow crowned and double yellow headed amazons look the same and only some amazon experts can say which species it is.


Ps. Sailboat the latin name Amazona ochracephala oratrix is old one it was used when DYH was a subspecies of YCA yet, now they are two different species and the current name is Amazona oratrix
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Re: Stunted or Petite?

Quote: Originally Posted by SailBoat View Post
Noted that I never really covered your key question: Stunted or Petite?
Your Amazon is a flier and if the age is correct, it would be fair to say that Petite fits the pictures. As long as your Amazon is eating and has dry food available during the day, that should not be a point of concern as you have a couple of growth periods ahead over the next 12 months.
Hi again. I still wait for cites of Wilson’s parents. But Wilson is more likely to be DYH Amazon not yellow crowned. Because her down part of beak is bone color and upper side of beak has some bone color and cere is all bone color too. Wilson has red on shoulders and dark purple external feathers. Also red on tail. Feet light grey not dark. Seller send me 2017 hatched Wilson’s brother photos is sure DYH. Now most of these clues show is a DYH i think. When i get cites and more information i add them to thread.

I read your amazon thread all. Great thread. I ask more information for nutrition for amazon baby. Am i doing right? I give her vegetables and fruits morning (apple, carrot, squash, peach, pear, green beans, beet, grapes and green leaves mixed) afternoon 10 cc formula and some wallnuts and pellets. Evenings cooked beans, cooked whole grain pasta and mashed potatoes mix. Before sleep 20 cc formula sometimes she not want all only 10 cc formula eat. Also all day pellets in her bowl. Is this diet ok for an amazon baby? Must i have to add or remove something from that diet?

Also if she is DYH isn’t she so small and underweight? I checked flesh around keel bone is not v shape nor u shape it is between v and u shape. Now 90-100 days old and 333-336 g. She is at that weight about 2 weeks. She start to refuse formula. My concern is when she wean she not get more weight or not grow much more. Is it posibble?

I wanna Wilson be healty and happy. I also will update if there is more information about Wilson.
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Re: Stunted or Petite?

The overall diet sound good. I would recommend that 'at all times' there is dry food available.
Continue to provide formula until your Amazon totally rejects it for four to five days in a roll. Any signs of begging, provide formula unit you are faced with rejection. Repeat as needed.
The question regarding the size of your Amazon should not be a concern at this moment. Target feeding your Amazon as much as it wants.
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Re: Stunted or Petite?

She is either panama or yellow crown, definitely not DYH
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She is either panama or yellow crown, definitely not DYH
Great observation on adding a panama, but at this point, the OP is waiting for CITES documentation on the parents. I willing to hold my final judgement until that point since there can be such a wide variation in very young Amazons.
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Re: Stunted or Petite?

Check this pic http://avesint.com/images/amz6-14-04.jpg
One is dyh and the other is panama
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Re: Stunted or Petite?

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Check this pic http://avesint.com/images/amz6-14-04.jpg
One is dyh and the other is panama

And that is why I think you providing the possibility of the OP's Parrot being a panama is a great observation.
Defining (Judging) a DYH as a 'Show Status' Nominate (at a Parrot Show) was avoided until the Parrot was five years of age.
All of Europe and that includes Eastern Europe falls under CITES requirements and the OP's Parrot should have come with a full document set clearly defining the Parent's heritage, full contact information including hatch date and any and all purchasers and resellers along the way, regardless of the CITES status of the final Country.
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Re: Stunted or Petite?

Quote: Originally Posted by bding View Post
Check this pic http://avesint.com/images/amz6-14-04.jpg
One is dyh and the other is panama

Quote: Originally Posted by bding View Post
She is either panama or yellow crown, definitely not DYH

In this picture DYH is adult but OP's DYH not so this pic doesn't really matter. In most classifications Panama amazon is still a subspecies of YCA. Anyway as Sailboat mentioned we can't say what is the species, when OP will have CITES documentation everything will be obvious so we should ony waiting. I'll write it again: In this age DYH and YCA look simillar.
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