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Old 10-08-2019, 04:41 AM
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Re: Getting Perry into his house?

So i did it he went into his house I used the dowel again he knew i was holding it of course and would go for my hand. I had a treat he would reach his neck out for and push the dowel against his upper legs but he just hung on. He actually went down inside himself probably like get me away from this guy. I feel really bad actually I feel like I bullied him into his house. He has plenty of treats in there though so i hope he forgives me.
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Old 10-08-2019, 05:26 AM
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Re: Getting Perry into his house?

Try getting him to do it during the day without shutting the door afterwards. That way, he doesn't assume that stepping up on the dowel means getting shut away.
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Old 10-08-2019, 06:30 AM
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Re: Getting Perry into his house?

Have you tried stepping him up on a stick and putting him in his house that way? In the distant past, that was sometimes the only way to get Kiwi in his cage if he was being stubborn and aggressive. And while he loves food, we could only trick him so many times with treats To get him in before he wised up. Kiwi has been free range for years, but while having our kitchen remodeled last year, he was pretty offended one day when he *had* to go in his small outside cage upstairs and be locked in for a few hours for his own safety due to what they were doing (he had spent the rest of the time carefully supervising the workers from the top of his cage). Birds who aren’t used to being caged do not take kindly to being locked up.

Just how used to being out of the cage is this bird? Is he flighted? What kind of bird is he? Could he possibly stay in a safer room, like roll the cage in but leave him loose the bathroom with the toilet lid down and nothing out on the counter or something?
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Old 10-08-2019, 07:37 AM
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Re: Getting Perry into his house?

Perry is a yellow crowned amazon. I think he’s pretty used to being out of his house most of the time. I haven’t gotten him to step up on the stick yet. He does not like it much and even with a treat and his neck fully extended for the treat i still couldn’t get him to step on the stick.
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Old 10-08-2019, 06:10 PM
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Re: Getting Perry into his house?

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Perry is a yellow crowned amazon. I think he’s pretty used to being out of his house most of the time. I haven’t gotten him to step up on the stick yet. He does not like it much and even with a treat and his neck fully extended for the treat i still couldn’t get him to step on the stick.
I misread-- well what I meant was, do the night routine during the day without shutting him in (+ treats), so he doesn't associate it with being locked up.
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Re: Getting Perry into his house?

Perry’s attitude has a taken a turn for the worse I think. All of a sudden he’s going after Bella my dog when she walks by he climbs down and goes after her. Perry is super nice to my feet but bites at my hands and has been drawing a bit of blood. What do I do about the foot fetish? He ignored my dog for the first 4 days not sure what changed today. He absolutely loves my feet I don’t think he thinks they are a part of me at all. Uggghhh. Guess things are gonna take awhile after all.
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Re: Getting Perry into his house?

Be patient and try to keep him off the floor (would be my suggestion for now)
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Old 10-08-2019, 08:04 PM
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Re: Getting Perry into his house?

I really prefer not having Amazons on the floor (kind of like the shoulder) until they earned it.

It is rare for Birds to connect our heads with the rest of our body. They see the other parts of us as stuff that hangs around us.
The Dog: At this point, Perry is 'likely' establishing his place in the house.

The danger of being Bird People is we tend to do the same thing that newcomers do, we rush... Remember, we need to establish the basics and we tend to skip around, forgetting that the foundation is Step-Up. Whether we use a perch or a finger /hand or arm. All while not screwing-up developing the trust (bond) relationship.

Remember, we are working to provide a 'Reason' and than several reasons for our Amazons to trust us...
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Old 10-08-2019, 08:28 PM
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Re: Getting Perry into his house?

Don’t despair, Perry’s ENTIRE WORLD has been turned upside down and inside out. You two, and even your household, may be the absolute perfect match, and Perry’s current change in attitude is to be more than expected. With the initial change, Perry was most likely really shaken up (confused, afraid, insecure, in shock) initially, and therefore on best behavior.

Now that some time has passed, the totality of his situation is hitting home. I would imagine he is now feeling pretty betrayed and abandoned. His whole life is so different. His change in attitude is probably a combination of anger/frustration at all these unasked for and confusing changes combined with that parro mentality of needing to test everything (mostly your patience, lol). So the fact that he feels “comfortable enough” with you to act out is actually a good sign. It shows that he is mentally processing these changes and responding appropriately. What he needs more than ever is for his new person to be patient, consistent, dependable and very much “there” (with Perry in the moment, not just sharing space as roommates). I imagine you are already quite the expert at this given the love you and your Frey shared.

As far as the dog....remember, even though you know your dog, Perry doesn’t. Even if he has been around “dogs”, they weren’t “this” dog. And Perry is a prey creature. And he knows that. And he is trying to figure how he fits into everything. Perhaps while he is going through this adjustment period it would be best to “not encourage” interaction between the two. I would hate for an adversarial relationship to develop if it can be avoided by limiting negative interactions for now.

I would expect Perry to continue to switch “attitudes” frequently. A few blissful days, a few rough ones, as Perry comes to grips with his new life. But as time goes on, I expect you will see less of the bad until they pretty much dwindle out. And every bird has their own timetable regarding this who,e process, just like people. Again, the importance of just “being in the moment” with Perry combined with predictability on your part is key.

Good luck,I am sure with Time & Love you two will pill through together!
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Old 10-09-2019, 04:00 AM
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Re: Getting Perry into his house?

Thank you very much. Perry is a sweet heart. He is adjusting far better than I could of really hoped so far really. Perry likes to bark like a dog maybe he thinks he’s part dog. Lol. Mr. Boats really hit the nail on the head I think though and Perry and I need to work on stepping up a lot more. I was so focused on trying to establish a bond with a perry that I haven’t been strict enough in my ways. Also I think I’ve been approaching Perry as if he were and african grey. Instead of established boundaries I have been trying to expand his boundaries. But he is much more out going than Timneh. Perry needs to have his rules put in place more properly. Thank you very much for the great advice guys helps a lot.

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