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Old 01-14-2020, 10:19 AM
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Re: Weight loss over time

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Get a food/diet scale and make a perch for it. You don't need a $100 scale, $10-$20 is fine.



Get in the habit of weighing her every day at the same time of day and jot down her weight. My bird's weight varies both day to day and throughout the day so getting on a schedule for weighing is important for consistency.



Waiting for a vet visit to weigh her is not good/often enough as monitoring weight is right up there with monitoring poop as a great indicator of health.





Bill beat me too it. A food scale is fine and mine was less than $15.


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Old 01-14-2020, 10:25 AM
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Re: Weight loss over time

Weight loss should always be viewed 'Over Time' and with specific changes that would attribute to a such a loss. Hence the comments regarding diet or activity changes. A weight loss over a six month time line with no or only minor changes in diet or activity needs to be considered as a possible issue.

It is VERY important to always keep in mind that unless there is consistency in when the weight is taken, fairly large swines in weight is possible. Consider the difference between a first thing in the morning weight and one late in the afternoon with a full gut and crop, plus a lot just waiting to be dropped. With our DYH, that could be as much as 18 grams. Yes, his dumps can be huge.

Remember that it took our DYH near two years to drop around 24 grams. That weight loss was attributed to his regaining his flight. If it was just as a result of diet, it could have been larger. Remember that muscles are heavier than fat, so as he loss fat, he gained muscle mass.

Please understand, we work with Amazons that have had serious health problems and as a result, we likely over-do the Avian Professionals 'Eyes-On.'

At present, you are very lucky to have an individual that knows what they are doing and providing a service outside of an Avian Clinic. That said, our current owner received a wind clip from a clerk from Pet (Not So) Smart from the Adult kids of the prior owner. The loss of flight resulted in Three surgeries to repair his rump. So, I get a bit overly sensitive to non-skill individuals providing services. Sorry if it came across too edgy.
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Old 01-14-2020, 11:27 AM
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Re: Weight loss over time

It may very well be all of the changes have caused her to eat less. A stressed bird will more likely not be as interested in food. However, you cannot be sure what caused it. A visit to the vet will likely give peace of mind that nothing is amiss, and an opportunity to learn more about the birds health.
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Re: Weight loss over time

Have an appt with the vet on the 24th for an exam and bloodwork. Hopefully he can shed some light on the situation.

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Old 01-15-2020, 08:32 PM
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Re: Weight loss over time

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Have an appt with the vet on the 24th for an exam and bloodwork. Hopefully he can shed some light on the situation.

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Re: Weight loss over time

I just got home from the vet with Addy. He did a physical exam, then blood work and trimmed her beak a bit. He also sexed her. I was told she was female, but dont know for sure. So, now I'll know for sure.

He said everything looked good from the physical exam. However, she had lost even more weight in the last two weeks. She is now down to 418. But he said she wasnt pathologically underweight, that she actually felt like a healthy weight. Everything else looked good physically. We talked a lot about her diet. He told me to give her more of the food that she will eat for now (pecans and nutraberries.) and to just mix it with what else I'm giving her. He said the bloodwork will be back tues or wed and after he sees those, we will talk more about her diet based on those results.

I'm anxious to get the blood test results and praying that nothing else is wrong.

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Re: Weight loss over time

If you should want a second opinion...

Certified Avian Vets
https://abvp.com/animal-owners/find-an-abvp-specialist/
If none are near you...
Avian Veterinarians
http://www.aav.org/search/custom.asp?id=1803
In my opinion, any of the vets listed here should be better than a regular vet.
International contacts, too.
Or... sometimes I find a place to start just by Googling "avian veterinarian near ((your location))"

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Re: Weight loss over time

Good job on getting her to the he vet. That's very concerning about more weigh loss. Diet changes have to be slow. So yes give her more nutraberries!!
Do you have your scale? I got one at Wal-Mart for under 20 bucks. You could get a block of wood for her to stand on , if she won't just stand on it.
Keep us posted. Did he do a fecal exam and fecal culture, or just blood work?
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Re: Weight loss over time

As far as the vet goes, hes not a CAV, but the reality is there are NO CAV's in my state, anywhere. The vet I go to has been treating birds for a long time and is highly recommended in this area by everyone who has birds. (I live in Nevada) There are no better, or really even, other options. He is very knowledgeable and spends a ton of time with people and seems to connect with the birds.

I have a scale. I just weighed her today, (exactly 24 hours after the appt where she weighed 418) and she weighed 426. I know it doesnt really mean anything but it made me feel a bit better.

I think I tried to change her diet too quickly. I was still giving her the things she liked and ate at her previous home, but I gave small amounts of the stuff she liked, in hopes that she would start eating the stuff that was good for her. Apparently she didnt, she just didnt eat. The vet said at this point to increase her pecans to about 6x what I had been giving her and told me to give her about 3 nutraberries a day. (nutraberries, pecans, apples and zupreem occasionally are the only thing she eats.) I gave her a bunch of pecans when I got her home and she literally chirped and purred while she was eating it. This morning she got a big dose of pecans and nutraberries along with the regular stuff I've been giving her. I just got home and gave her more. I'm letting her eat all of it she wants at this point. I'm looking forward to hearing about the bloodwork.

I blame myself this weight loss problem. I feel like I've been starving her. I feel horrible. I'm just praying we get through this and the bloodwork doesnt show anything major is wrong.
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Re: Weight loss over time

Please don’t beat yourself up over this. Like the rest of us you want what’s best for your bird which is why you’re here seeking input and support in the first place. Since they can’t tell us exactly what’s up with them getting those blood tests done is the next best thing. From personal experience I know sometimes getting them to eat healthier can be very difficult since they’ll often resist you every step of the way!

I’ve had the opposite problem with my lorikeet, her issue was she was slightly overweight which triggered in her little brain “Oooh, there’s plenty of food about, this would be a very good time to raise chicks!” and she promptly started laying eggs. Her vet said it’s better for her to be slightly underweight because she’ll (in theory!) be less inclined to lay eggs next season. So we’ll wait and see how that works out!

Either way it sounds like Addy couldn’t have a more loving and dedicated carer than you and I wish you every success at your next appointment with the vet!
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