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Old 01-13-2020, 09:22 PM
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Weight loss over time

I posted a few days ago about Addys beak and if I should get it trimmed or not. As I said in that post, I took her over the weekend to get her nails trimmed. I get this done at the local parrot store. They do it every weekend for anyone who needs it for free. (also wing clipping. Last time I had Fidgets wings clipped, my vet actually complimented the clipping job. ) Forgot to mention that she is a 12 year old RLA.

She has seen a vet once, right after i got her. He said she appears healthy but we didnt do bloodwork.

Anyway, while she was there I asked them to also weigh her. When I got her in June 2019, she weighed 472 gms. When they weighed her this weekend she weighed 430 gms. That seems like a big drop but its over 6.5 mos. The guy who handled her said she felt like a healthy weight.

Shes a VERY picky eater. When I got her she only ate pecans, apples, nutraberries and cheezits. Her diet has changed a lot since I brought her home. She now gets chop daily, with pieces of apples, a few small pieces of pecans, and one nutraberrie. I also mix in more fresh stuff when I have it. I have found that she usually likes snap peas, and has eaten the occasional blueberry. Oh, she also loves pistachios but she only gets those occasionally. She does get pine nuts when I want her to step up. She is eating fruit Zupreem when she in on her playstand but wont eat them when she is in her cage?? She is very shy and runs if I offer anything else.

I constantly offer new and different fresh stuff but she never touches it.

My concern is that with the weight she has lost since I got her, should I change her diet so that she doesnt lose more? Or just keep feeding her what I am currently giving her and maybe increase the stuff that she does like? Or something completely new and different!

I just dont want her to keep losing weight and end up too thin?

Thoughts and advice would be appreciated.

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Old 01-13-2020, 09:54 PM
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Re: Weight loss over time

Is Addy a flier? How active is she? I'm not familiar with a RLA..I know they are smaller than a Blue Front. Amy is kinda "big" for his age (just turned 30) at his porkiest he was a huge 548g's but after diet change,less treats,he has maintained between 507 to 511g's. But he doesn't fly.
Addy might be losing some weight coz you have her on a better diet? Do you have a scale where you can monitor the weight? I ended up getting one (can't remember from where) on line..think it was from Parrot Wizard and I weigh both Amy and BB weekly.


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Re: Weight loss over time

No, she isn't a flier. Shes mostly a perch potato and is just starting to play with toys. She's very shy and very leary of anything new. (Other then strange men. She loves all men without hesitation!)

I don't have a real scale, I guess that's what I'll use my Amazon gift card I got for Christmas for.

I can't figure out why she won't eat the pellets in her cage? That might help if I can get her to do that.

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Old 01-13-2020, 10:54 PM
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Re: Weight loss over time

Get a food/diet scale and make a perch for it. You don't need a $100 scale, $10-$20 is fine.

Get in the habit of weighing her every day at the same time of day and jot down her weight. My bird's weight varies both day to day and throughout the day so getting on a schedule for weighing is important for consistency.

Waiting for a vet visit to weigh her is not good/often enough as monitoring weight is right up there with monitoring poop as a great indicator of health.

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Re: Weight loss over time

Quote: Originally Posted by Shine View Post
I posted a few days ago about Addys beak and if I should get it trimmed or not. As I said in that post, I took her over the weekend to get her nails trimmed. I get this done at the local parrot store. They do it every weekend for anyone who needs it for free. (also wing clipping. Last time I had Fidgets wings clipped, my vet actually complimented the clipping job. ) Forgot to mention that she is a 12 year old RLA.

She has seen a vet once, right after i got her. He said she appears healthy but we didnt do bloodwork.

Anyway, while she was there I asked them to also weigh her. When I got her in June 2019, she weighed 472 gms. When they weighed her this weekend she weighed 430 gms. That seems like a big drop but its over 6.5 mos. The guy who handled her said she felt like a healthy weight.

Shes a VERY picky eater. When I got her she only ate pecans, apples, nutraberries and cheezits. Her diet has changed a lot since I brought her home. She now gets chop daily, with pieces of apples, a few small pieces of pecans, and one nutraberrie. I also mix in more fresh stuff when I have it. I have found that she usually likes snap peas, and has eaten the occasional blueberry. Oh, she also loves pistachios but she only gets those occasionally. She does get pine nuts when I want her to step up. She is eating fruit Zupreem when she in on her playstand but wont eat them when she is in her cage?? She is very shy and runs if I offer anything else.

I constantly offer new and different fresh stuff but she never touches it.

My concern is that with the weight she has lost since I got her, should I change her diet so that she doesnt lose more? Or just keep feeding her what I am currently giving her and maybe increase the stuff that she does like? Or something completely new and different!

I just dont want her to keep losing weight and end up too thin?

Thoughts and advice would be appreciated.
Has she had a blood panel (CBC)? This is important for any bird, but especially a picky-eater with a sketchy food history and weight-loss.
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Re: Weight loss over time

I don't think you have enough data points to panic. Get a scale and weigh her for a few weeks or so. I don't know how your vet weighed her...was it the same procedure both times? Do that weigh her in her carry enclosure?
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Old 01-13-2020, 11:13 PM
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Re: Weight loss over time

I don't think that you have enough data points to panic. Get a scale and weigh her for a few weeks or so. Did your vet weigh her the same way both times? Does he weigh her in her carry enclosure?
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Re: Weight loss over time

I think that perhaps another visit to the vet may be in order. I have a cautionary tale about my Sambird. He goes to the vet regularly, and has blood work once a year. This one visit, about three years ago, he had lost some weight. Perhaps 70 gms. or so. The vet commented on it, because Sam is a big eater, and has never lost weight before. The vet suggested we do an extra blood panel. We did, and discovered that Sam had developed an issue with fatty liver. He went on Lactulose with milk thistle and has been stable since.

I am not saying that your bird has any issues. What I am saying is that weight loss is a signal that something may be amiss. It may also be the change in her environment. However, it can never be ignored.
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Re: Weight loss over time

Truly great advise provide above! And, a major weight change is something to be concerned about, especially if there have not been a like change in diet or activity.

We target checking weight in the early morning after the major 'movement' and shortly after our DVH Amazons wakes-up and prior to morning feeding. By using this timing, you have the most stable weight to compare with between weights.

Our guy provides consistent weights around 500 grams. On the light side for a DYH, that is also an active flight. When he first came to us, he was 524 grams and Not Flighted. Once he started flying again, it took him a bit more than two years to trim-down to his stable weight.

NOTE #1: Unless you are activity working to reduce your Amazon's weight, they should have a dry food bowl with water available all day.

NOTE #2: RLA come from three separate regions and their size differs between each region. So, it is likely your RLA may be normally larger than a RLA from a different region.

I understand that 'free' is a very nice thing. But, we choose to spend the additional monies to place our Amazon in the eye sight of an Avian Professional at different points of the year.
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Re: Weight loss over time

I'll make an appt for bloodwork. I'm also buying a scale so I can better monitor her weight.

The "free" is only for nail trimming and wing clipping. I just asked them to weigh her while I was there. I would never replace a vet visit with that.

I was wondering if that sort of weight loss over a 6 month time period would still be a problem, or if spread out over that long might not be such a big issue with all the transition she's gone through.

Thanks for the info, I appreciate it.



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