New YNP—It’s Archie!

SailBoat said:

Very happy to see you have join the large family of Amazon Folks!

Yellow Nape Amazons (YNA) are one of the Big Hot Three and can have a difficult time transitioning into Adulthood. This commonly occurs between their four and sixth year of age with some dealing earlier with the on-flow of Hormonal chemicals, the rush... You have time to deeply develop your relationship with your Amazon, that trust bond will become very important as the transition begins.

- Your most important point to remember, (wright it down), is your YNA has no control of the Hormonal Rush. You will have to see it for what it is and know to back away and give your guy room to cool-off.

- You really need one or both of your Sons to buy into and Love your YNA. As a Young Amazon, he will easily outlive you and live long into your Son's life.

- A Flyer! We have come to understand that Amazons (like most all Parrots) are by design Flyers. Those who are not allowed to fly early in their life never have the benefit of a fully developed; heart, air-sacks (lungs) or flight muscles. An underdeveloped Heart becomes a limiting fact to the long life of your Amazon.

- Socialize your Amazon! Near everyone that comes in the house is a potential perch...

- Although a bit early, take the time to read with detail (over and over again) the Thread at the top of the Amazon Forum, Understand Amazon Body Language... Over the next several years, you will see your guy use the foundation and then build on them with his own.

- Have a long discussion with your attorney regarding the care of your Amazon long after you are no longer able.

I'm old as well and have been in the care of Amazons for a very long time, over four and a half decades...

Welcome to the Wonderful World of Amazons!

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SailBoat said:

Yup, Big Parrots, Big Vet Bills. Start to budget into your yearly costs...
Should have gotten the DNA sexing while at the Avian Professional Clinic...

There is a difference, but its not always clear... I have had females that had been true fireballs and males that where a bit cooler. So, if you are thinking that waiting to see if you can determine, which you have. Not, a good idea... The concerns with males and females comes to diet based around egg laying and the quick determination if your Amazon is egg bound. If your assumed male becomes egg bound and dies from it, you saved nothing and are faced with the heartache.

By the way, the folks you got your CITES Class I Amazon from provided you a complete Hatch Certificate, which defines its parents, the breeder and their contact information, plus any stops between the breeder and you, Correct? If not, you need to get that document set and I strongly recommend that you provide a complete copy to your Avian Professional.

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Ira7 said:

SailBoat said:

Yup, Big Parrots, Big Vet Bills. Start to budget into your yearly costs...
Should have gotten the DNA sexing while at the Avian Professional Clinic...

There is a difference, but its not always clear... I have had females that had been true fireballs and males that where a bit cooler. So, if you are thinking that waiting to see if you can determine, which you have. Not, a good idea... The concerns with males and females comes to diet based around egg laying and the quick determination if your Amazon is egg bound. If your assumed male becomes egg bound and dies from it, you saved nothing and are faced with the heartache.

By the way, the folks you got your CITES Class I Amazon from provided you a complete Hatch Certificate, which defines its parents, the breeder and their contact information, plus any stops between the breeder and you, Correct? If not, you need to get that document set and I strongly recommend that you provide a complete copy to your Avian Professional.

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All I got was his hatch date and band #.

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SailBoat said:

Ira7 said:

SailBoat said:

Yup, Big Parrots, Big Vet Bills. Start to budget into your yearly costs...
Should have gotten the DNA sexing while at the Avian Professional Clinic...

There is a difference, but its not always clear... I have had females that had been true fireballs and males that where a bit cooler. So, if you are thinking that waiting to see if you can determine, which you have. Not, a good idea... The concerns with males and females comes to diet based around egg laying and the quick determination if your Amazon is egg bound. If your assumed male becomes egg bound and dies from it, you saved nothing and are faced with the heartache.

By the way, the folks you got your CITES Class I Amazon from provided you a complete Hatch Certificate, which defines its parents, the breeder and their contact information, plus any stops between the breeder and you, Correct? If not, you need to get that document set and I strongly recommend that you provide a complete copy to your Avian Professional.

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All I got was his hatch date and band #.

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That is an incomplete Hatch Certificate! It is a Federal, in fact, an International Requirement that all CITES, Class 1 and Class 2 Amazons (endangered species) must be provided a detailed Hatch Certificate! Do not treat this as a so what issue as if you elect to travel or rehome your Amazon, you will need to go back and attempt to reconstruct the needed information.

So, your Yellow Nape Amazon (YNA) is using the foot to take food!!! Wow, your Amazon has table manners already in place!!!

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Ira7 said:

SailBoat said:

Ira7 said:

All I got was his hatch date and band #.

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That is an incomplete Hatch Certificate! It is a Federal, in fact, an International Requirement that all CITES, Class 1 /Class 2 Amazons (endangered species) must be provided a detailed Hatch Certificate! Do not treat this as a so what issue as if you elect to travel or rehome your Amazon, you will need to go back and attempt to reconstruct the needed information.

So, your Yellow Nape Amazon (YNA) is using the foot to take food!!! Wow, your Amazon has table manners already in place!!!

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I’m going to the store tomorrow and I’ll ask.

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SailBoat said:

Ira7 said:

SailBoat said:

That is an incomplete Hatch Certificate! It is a Federal, in fact, an International Requirement that all CITES, Class 1 /Class 2 Amazons (endangered species) must be provided a detailed Hatch Certificate! Do not treat this as a so what issue as if you elect to travel or rehome your Amazon, you will need to go back and attempt to reconstruct the needed information.

So, your Yellow Nape Amazon (YNA) is using the foot to take food!!! Wow, your Amazon has table manners already in place!!!

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I’m going to the store tomorrow and I’ll ask.

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Consider going back in and starting from the position of:

As we both know, the Yellow Nape Amazon I purchased here is classified as an endangered species under CITES Class 1 and Class 2 and for the last three years here in the United States (in fact all of North America), Breeders and Sellers of such Parrots are required by Law to provide a detailed Hatch Certificate with the sale of such Parrots.

As a Retailer, you know that you must provide such documentation with the sale of any such Amazon that 'today' is under the age of three (3) years.

See above Post regarding the minimum information.

Assure you are talking to an Owner, as the average store staff person likely hasn't a clue what your talking about, let alone what an Amazon is beyond its green...

Since you are in South Florida, the pet trade is under fairly close scrutiny compared to, say a Bird Store in one of the Great Plains States, for black market parrots...

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