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Old 08-11-2013, 02:55 PM
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Help...how to undo screaming?

Crap. Crap. Crap. I think I've inadvertently reinforced screaming/squawking to get my attention....how do I undo this?? Sometimes Jackie calls for me, but usually it's obnoxious squawks, holding out his wings, and wanting me to come pick him up. It's hard to ignore his loudness and persistence when our place is sooo tiny.
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Old 08-11-2013, 03:06 PM
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Re: Help...how to undo screaming?

I did the same with Bosley too, but the good news is that Jackie trusts you. What this means is get some earplugs and ignore him, it will be short lived. Pick your time, baby.not napping and hubby out of the house and ignore. It only lasted 2days with Bosley before he got it. Now he screams when he wants me but after an initial yell he gives up if I don't come.
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Old 08-11-2013, 03:27 PM
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Re: Help...how to undo screaming?

Well you can try the "send in the bad guy routine" if you have a bad guy. Is there someone he doesn't like? Is there a least favorite person. The bad guy needs a few days he can hang around and be available all day, (like a weekend). Every time he screams ,send in the bad guy, they don't have to do anything, just stand beside his cage until he calms down and then leave. When he behaves ,you visit and take him treats/praise him,etc. When he starts the screaming, the "bad guy" shows up and stand beside the cage. It usually works in a couple of days if your very consistent. Of course you need someone he really doesn't like or want to see. Worth a try, it works for me most of the time. especially with older birds who have a favorite person they're screaming for. They usually will try a word or phase that gets attention, the trick is to respond to what you find acceptable. If you don't he'll start screaming because that works to get attention. You can teach him that screaming brings the bad guy, but you also need to reinforce good behavior and give him a way to call you where you respond.

Merlee, you need to write that one down, it works.
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Re: Help...how to undo screaming?

Your MIL would be perfect for henpeckeds advice LOL
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Re: Help...how to undo screaming?

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Your MIL would be perfect for henpeckeds advice LOL
BAHAHHA!!!! Yesssssss.... Yes, she would would be perfect, but I don't want her lurking around my teeny place for any amount of time lol I like her, just in certain short doses
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Re: Help...how to undo screaming?

My husband could be/is the bad guy...his presence always sends Jackie into a mood lol I could give the good guy, bad guy thing a try -with ear plugs lol the only person he likes around here is me.

How do I teach him an acceptable way to call me? Sometimes he does this "yoo hoo!!" call and I'll answer likewise -if he doesn't answer himself first lol should I just call out "yoo hoo!" when he's quiet and then go pick him up?
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Old 08-11-2013, 05:58 PM
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Re: Help...how to undo screaming?

Although I don't recommend free-flight, reading about your recent issues with Jackie reminded me of this article...

Use your words: Conditioning Sam to a new environment | Learning Parrots

And here's one blog that I really enjoy! It's about trying to set a bird up for success by preventing bad behavior in the first place rather than "ignoring" it and hoping it goes away!

Living With Parrots Cage Free: Does Ignoring Really Work?
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Re: Help...how to undo screaming?

My girl "Jake" knows that screaming will not bring me running. She'll try EVERYTHING she ever learned to say . If one thing doesn't work ,she'll try the next. It's kind of cute really. To listen to her go though her whole repertoire to find something that works. But screaming never works. Smart bird. Pick something you can live with, "Pretty girl" or "I love you" or a certain call, It won't take long, if you respond ,that's what she'll use.It's a give and take situation. You have to give in to something or she'll do what ever it takes.It's as much about training you to do, as training her not to.
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Re: Help...how to undo screaming?

Quote: Originally Posted by MonicaMc View Post
Although I don't recommend free-flight, reading about your recent issues with Jackie reminded me of this article...

Use your words: Conditioning Sam to a new environment | Learning Parrots

And here's one blog that I really enjoy! It's about trying to set a bird up for success by preventing bad behavior in the first place rather than "ignoring" it and hoping it goes away!

Living With Parrots Cage Free: Does Ignoring Really Work?
Thanks for the links!! I really like the second one- watching for cues and redirecting before the misbehaving starts. I think that might be more feasible than ignoring his screams, because in our tiny place it's really hard to ignore a screaming zon and I can't always leave the room with a toddler running amuck lol
So, we'll see how this goes...
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Re: Help...how to undo screaming?

I can't imagine it'll be easy, but I wish you the best of luck in trying to get Jackie's behavior under control!!!!
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