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Hi everybody! We are at a loss with an 8 year old female congo african grey that we bought about 2 months ago. Her name is trixie. She doesnt want to spend time with us. Normally shes a very quiet bird. She doesnt talk at all. She whistles once in a while( once every couple days, for a few minutes at a time) or when her cage is covered and she wants us to uncover her. Every single time i uncover her, she does this loud high pitched screech, she also makes the screech when im doing something she doesnt like( trying to put my hand near her) This makes me confused because she makes the screech when shes happy, and when shes angry at me.. So i dont even know what shes trying to say by screeching. I did notice that before she screeches, her eyes will pin. Anyways, her cage door is open all day, until bed time. She will only come out to stand on top of her cage, and she gets scared if i take her away from it. Sometimes when i stick a perch in to pick her up she will lunge at it and attack it. She bites a lot and we are scared to handle her. We also had to get her wings clipped because she was "dive bombing" people she didnt like. Sometimes she will let me scratch her head, other times when i try to pet her she will bob her head really fast, and ive learned that when she does that, it means shes going to bite me. I really want to bond with her and spend more time with her, but shes just so aggressive. Please help me, I may have to consider rehoming her because i feel like she just hates her life here! I just want her to be happy
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Re: African grey does not like us :(

Hi, I'm so sorry your grey is taking time to settle. Greys are very, very sensitive birds. They feed on our emotions so I'd counsel you to be very careful in the way you speak to her and act around her. Always speak sweet, try not to make any sudden movements. Slow and deliberate. Don't force any stepping up or more interaction than she shows she's ready to engage in. Talk a lot to her every day as you're walking by the cage or where she is. Offer her favourite treats, have some music playing.

I have rehabbed a few greys and they are known to take time - 2 months is actually a short time. One grey I had took over a year to come around. Some greys, not many, never return to being willing to be handled. This is usually because they were mistreated in their past. We just have to be willing to have them and love them.

The grey forum has TONS of advice. Don't panic, I have a feeling that your baby will come around. She just has to adjust and feel the love.
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Old 01-09-2017, 03:11 AM
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Re: African grey does not like us :(

don't worry as someone I have seen in the news a lot of late would say you can win this, and you can win it bigly.lol sorry I just had to.

sounds like you just need to do some studying up on the personality of your Parrot so you know just what to expect use these forums and also having a good hard copy of a book on Grey's would be good to keep around in a pinch and of course the almighty google.

what you describe, only top of cage I have the same thing with Lilly my Amazon and any movement towards her she freaks with hands or anything else. she wont step up on my hand only my arm,and not on bare skin. she bites at me all the time, yet when she is on my arm she will let me pet her and rub her neck. for the biting with her I just think it is a touching thing she has never got me hard. I have been able to teach her to say pretty girl Lilly,and what ya doing,and do do doing. but she still bites at me when first approaching. a couple of times a day she will have screaming fit's, and the noise my friend is just something to learn to live with. she has hers most of the time when hanging upside down. to much blood to the brain maybe.lol she was not a planned bird so I did not study the Amazons so I brought her home blind. these forums here will tell you all you need to know. I think I would spend a lot of cageside time with her talking and treating with the treats getting smaller and smaller to get her used to your fingers. every morning when I uncover Lilly and Maxx we meet at the door perch and I offer them a finger and both give me a loving little nibble,and touch of tongue. I view it as a bonding thing.

don't give up, you just may have a bit of work to do good luck
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Re: African grey does not like us :(

Not a Grey person, but if you are able to give her scratches, even a little bit, thats good, right? You will get great advice from some really experienced folks on here.
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Re: African grey does not like us :(

I don't have a Grey but I understand they're highly emotional and sensitive birds. So this is my guess based on what I know about birds in general.

From what you describe she's afraid and her cage is her safe space. She'll play in or on it but gets freaked when you take her away from it. So the first thing you need to do is let her know YOU are a safe space.

What I saw someone post someplace, maybe here, was his/her means to get the bird used to them.

1. Make sure the cage is in a separate room from the main living area.
2. Go into that room and stand nice and far away. Just talk. Gently and sweetly to the bird.
3. When the bird settles down and seems OK with you there take a step or 2 forward.
4. Again, do with the talking. Be calm and easy.
5. Rinse and repeat until the bird is OK with you at the cage.

From there you do basically the same process with each next step. Open the door, talk till she's OK. Then show her the stick you'd like her to work with and talk.

The number 1 rule with birds that these kind folks have taught me: don't force it. Don't push a bird to do something it's not ready or willing to do. You need to be calm and so very very patient. It takes time... in some cases a LOT of time to get them to settle into life with you.
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Re: African grey does not like us :(

I don't think I would use a stick to get her out of the cage. in her mind when you stick that into her cage you are trespassing. I would try the getting to step up thing while she is on the top of her cage sounds like she is a little cage aggressive. on the stick thing I would never even approach any of my cages with a stick in my hand. also always remember the bird is watching your hands more that anything else. and let her come to you. with lilly I had to hang out next to her cage and chat with her before she would even get up on my arm. and she is very slow to progress but I will let her come along in her time.
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Re: African grey does not like us :(

Another thought I just had from reading Dave's post.

How you approach them with your hand matters a lot as well. I find that with my conure if I just stick my hand out to him to get him to step up he'll take off.

But if I bring it in low (below him if possible) to where he is and then bring it up to his feet he'll step up with no problems.

The Macaw is the same way. Come in low and come up slowly and he'll step up. Come in at or above food height and move too fast and you'll get nipped.

Just an observation from my two twits.
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Re: African grey does not like us :(

Quote: Originally Posted by JBassset View Post
Another thought I just had from reading Dave's post.

How you approach them with your hand matters a lot as well. I find that with my conure if I just stick my hand out to him to get him to step up he'll take off.

But if I bring it in low (below him if possible) to where he is and then bring it up to his feet he'll step up with no problems.

The Macaw is the same way. Come in low and come up slowly and he'll step up. Come in at or above food height and move too fast and you'll get nipped.

Just an observation from my two twits.
i have always used the right above the feet with a little bump in the chest if they hesitate. but I'm going to try your way now. my way sometimes my finger gets in the way
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Re: African grey does not like us :(

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Quote: Originally Posted by JBassset View Post
Another thought I just had from reading Dave's post.

How you approach them with your hand matters a lot as well. I find that with my conure if I just stick my hand out to him to get him to step up he'll take off.

But if I bring it in low (below him if possible) to where he is and then bring it up to his feet he'll step up with no problems.

The Macaw is the same way. Come in low and come up slowly and he'll step up. Come in at or above food height and move too fast and you'll get nipped.

Just an observation from my two twits.
i have always used the right above the feet with a little bump in the chest if they hesitate. but I'm going to try your way now. my way sometimes my finger gets in the way
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I was doing it that way and figured at least I didn't need to by leaches for my daily blood letting.

Started this way and it works. I just come from below the feet, move up and then chest bump if necessary. The conure has taken to holding his foot out and leaning forward until he falls onto my finger. The Mac just watches and steps up when he judges my arm to be in the "right spot"

Birds are weird. I like it!
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Re: African grey does not like us :(

In some ways, she does trust me. For example, if something scares her and she flies off her cage she will start walking over to me, step up on my hand and let me take her back to her cage. She takes treats from my fingers very gently. She will even take the tiniest seed from my fingers. The main thing i want to do is to teach her to step up on command, but sometimes she is aggressive about it. I know shes had 2 previous homes. The first home bought her as a baby, kept her for seven years, and then sold her to a man. This is the man i bought her from. He seemed like a nice guy, he said he wanted to keep her but she seems to hate men. He still contacts me every once in a while to see how shes doing. He used oven mitts to handle her because she HATED him. She screamed and went completely insane when he even came near her cage. She doesnt do that at my house, ive never heard her flip out like that since i took her home. She doesnt really play with toys, she actually doesnt really do anything besides just stand there and look around. I really think that the aggression is because shes scared because ive seen her shaking when i talk to her, its sad. Any tips on starting to teach her to step up? Or is it too soon for that?
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