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Newbsi

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Gollum - Senegal
Hatch Day- 5/8/15 &

Dobby- Indian Ringneck
Hatch Day- 7/16/15
The breeder I got Gollum from has IRN on eggs but this is her first clutch and she is not sure they will produce babies. While I am waiting to find out, I have been looking to see other options, just in case. There are none locally. I have been on birdbreeder.com and there are lots of IRN available. Having a bird shipped is scary. There are a few that seem to have actual stores. I am not sure how safe that is....
Anyhow, if anyone knows of a good, reputable IRN breeder that does ship, please let me know. You can always PM me as well :)

I am looking for a Lutino or one that falls in the blue or violet color family.
 

SilverSage

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Hmm, IRNs are a very unique species, is Gollum your first bird? I dont suggest adding a second bird of a completely different species before your first bird hits sexual maturity and all the issues that come with that.
 
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Hatch Day- 5/8/15 &

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Hatch Day- 7/16/15
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Hmm, IRNs are a very unique species, is Gollum your first bird? I dont suggest adding a second bird of a completely different species before your first bird hits sexual maturity and all the issues that come with that.

Yes gollum is my first bird. And he is about 11-12 weeks old now
 

SilverSage

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I love indian ringnecks very much. and I am NOT saying you shouldnt get one :) However, in my experience (many, many times, I would say 9 times out of 10) getting a second parrot, especially one of a vastly different temperament type, before the first one reaches sexual maturity, leads to big problems. Im not saying dont get your 5th bird until the 4th one is mature, I'm saying deal with ONE BIRD maturing before adding more. I know you will probably ignore this advice, most people do, MBS and all... but I'm serious. I'm not pulling this out of the air. Most baby birds are super sweet until they hit puberty and then all hell breaks loose. Check Craigslist and you will see MOST of the birds for sale are just hitting that stage. It isnt a joke. Do you see how many threads are on here that basically say "My bird used to be sweet and now he is evil"? Sexual maturity. My understanding is that in Senegals that is about 3 years old. The wise thing to do is to wait until you have successfully weathered one "teenage" bird, especially because IRNs dont wait for puberty to become a huge handful.

Im not trying to be mean or harsh, just realistic. I know most people ignore this type of advice, but then again most people get into birds and then get out a few years later... hhhmm... I wonder why....

I JUST helped a woman rehome 12 birds after she ignored advice similar to this. It was frustrating and saddening. Birds are sooooo amazing, we all want to rush out and get the next one, they are addictive, like a drug. a cute, smart, happy drug. But rushing it doesnt help anyone.

Im not going to berate you if you get one, or say mean things, I just feel that I owe it to your birds to say this. And, since most people ignore this advice, I will tell you, message the user SunsetChaser. She breeds IRNs.
 

SoCalWendy

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The breeder I got Gollum from has IRN on eggs but this is her first clutch and she is not sure they will produce babies. While I am waiting to find out, I have been looking to see other options, just in case. There are none locally. I have been on birdbreeder.com and there are lots of IRN available. Having a bird shipped is scary. There are a few that seem to have actual stores. I am not sure how safe that is....
Anyhow, if anyone knows of a good, reputable IRN breeder that does ship, please let me know. You can always PM me as well :)

I am looking for a Lutino or one that falls in the blue or violet color family.

I don't want to burst your bubble, but be really careful adding another bird with a sennie.. Sennie's tend to be very jealous birds. Rio almost killed my parrotlet. They were he same age, born in the same month even. I got Kiwi first at 8 weeks, then 2 months later I got my Senegal. They were both 4 month old, and hated each other from day 1. Of course a plet is no match for a Senegal and an Irn is larger then a Senegal, but fighting is fighting. Mine got into it only 3 times in 2 years, the last incident being the worst. It is not a pleasant thing to see, and breaking it up is very difficult with two stubborn birds. So really do you research, be well informed before you decided adding another bird.
 

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RIP "pineapple" lovebird
I know nothing but IRNs but I will agree that getting two babies might prove impossible.

Maybe if you are really set on a second bird NOW, look into a rehome. One already past sexual maturity that you will know what you're getting in to.

I have bird experience, and I have one young bird and one 5 year old amazon. I think I am not out of the woods with her yet, but her temperament is pretty even.
I wouldn't suggest two young birds at the same time for someone that doesn't have experience though. Just my two cents. It'll be frustrating
And possibly heartbreaking.
 

Doublete

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RIP "pineapple" lovebird
The breeder I got Gollum from has IRN on eggs but this is her first clutch and she is not sure they will produce babies. While I am waiting to find out, I have been looking to see other options, just in case. There are none locally. I have been on birdbreeder.com and there are lots of IRN available. Having a bird shipped is scary. There are a few that seem to have actual stores. I am not sure how safe that is....
Anyhow, if anyone knows of a good, reputable IRN breeder that does ship, please let me know. You can always PM me as well :)

I am looking for a Lutino or one that falls in the blue or violet color family.

I don't want to burst your bubble, but be really careful adding another bird with a sennie.. Sennie's tend to be very jealous birds. Rio almost killed my parrotlet. They were he same age, born in the same month even. I got Kiwi first at 8 weeks, then 2 months later I got my Senegal. They were both 4 month old, and hated each other from day 1. Of course a plet is no match for a Senegal and an Irn is larger then a Senegal, but fighting is fighting. Mine got into it only 3 times in 2 years, the last incident being the worst. It is not a pleasant thing to see, and breaking it up is very difficult with two stubborn birds. So really do you research, be well informed before you decided adding another bird.

Actually I've heard that a lot about sennies. They basically don't seem to be very social. :)

Be prepared to have to always have separate out of cage time. Never allowing them out at the same time and not allowing one to climb on another's cage.
 

SoCalWendy

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The breeder I got Gollum from has IRN on eggs but this is her first clutch and she is not sure they will produce babies. While I am waiting to find out, I have been looking to see other options, just in case. There are none locally. I have been on birdbreeder.com and there are lots of IRN available. Having a bird shipped is scary. There are a few that seem to have actual stores. I am not sure how safe that is....
Anyhow, if anyone knows of a good, reputable IRN breeder that does ship, please let me know. You can always PM me as well :)

I am looking for a Lutino or one that falls in the blue or violet color family.

I don't want to burst your bubble, but be really careful adding another bird with a sennie.. Sennie's tend to be very jealous birds. Rio almost killed my parrotlet. They were he same age, born in the same month even. I got Kiwi first at 8 weeks, then 2 months later I got my Senegal. They were both 4 month old, and hated each other from day 1. Of course a plet is no match for a Senegal and an Irn is larger then a Senegal, but fighting is fighting. Mine got into it only 3 times in 2 years, the last incident being the worst. It is not a pleasant thing to see, and breaking it up is very difficult with two stubborn birds. So really do you research, be well informed before you decided adding another bird.

Actually I've heard that a lot about sennies. They basically don't seem to be very social. :)

Be prepared to have to always have separate out of cage time. Never allowing them out at the same time and not allowing one to climb on another's cage.

A Senegal may do better with a larger bird, but they will rule the roost with their sennie-tude. Even experience bird trainers like Michael (the parrot wizzard) has his handsful with his Senegal, Cape, and his Mac. he does well with them all, but he is very experienced. For an inexperienced person, you maybe asking for trouble.
 
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JerseyWendy

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Newbsi, I noticed you haven't touched this thread since receiving some PHENOMENAL feedback/advice.

What are your thoughts?

Will you still go forward, or will you wait until Gollum is mature? Dealing with a mature/maturing Senni cannot be compared with living with a baby. ;)
 
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Hatch Day- 5/8/15 &

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Hatch Day- 7/16/15
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I spent the morning putting together Gollums new cage. It came last night.
I am not sure what I am going to do. I had read getting two birds when they are young increases the chance for them to bond. I know they would not ever share a cage but it would increase the chance that I would be able to have them out at the same time. Rather than wait for the Sennie to become mature and territorial, adding another while she is young would be better. However it looks like SoCalWendy did get two when they were young and it didnt work out that way for her. I know there are no guarantees and that birds have different personalities etc, there is no way to know how your parrot will react. Anyhow, I just feel confused. I will do more reading. I also did contact my local Avian Rescue so I can go in and see other birds. Larger birds (not Macaws... they scare me :54: ) They know I am not considering getting a rescue, that I just want to get some experience with birds.
We will see... I have not made my mind up one way or another:confused:
 

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I know how you feel Newbsi. I would LOVE to have another bird, we've had Foo since Jan 2013. I have two old dogs (18 and 11) who require a lot of medical right now. Plus a cage full of pet rats who need their time as well. Being that we don't have the best finances or space and I want to have lots of free time I will wait.

I'm hoping in a few years I can add a lorikeet to our flock. In the mean time it gives me a lot of time to figure out if a lorikeet is the best pet for us and lots of time to learn about them and their specialized diet.
 
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Hatch Day- 7/16/15
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In the mean time it gives me a lot of time to figure out if a lorikeet is the best pet for us


I think Gollum is amazing and is a great bird. However when we talked about getting a bird it was the intent to get a second bird within 5 months of the first. Now, would a Senegal have been my first choice if only getting one... I probably would have gotten the ringneck first. (I feel guilty for even acknowledging that thought... but none the less its true)
Gollum is here and isnt going anywhere. Now I just have to figure out what I feel is best for us now. LOL, easier said than done!
 

RavensGryf

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I had read getting two birds when they are young increases the chance for them to bond. I know they would not ever share a cage but it would increase the chance that I would be able to have them out at the same time.

Not only is there never a guarantee with any species, but now you have a bird of a genus that is really one of the LEAST likely to get on with another bird regardless of age.

My Ruppell's parrot is a Poicephalus also, and he and my larger Pionus are a bonded "couple", but... BUT... that is extremely unusual, and just happened to work out with these 2 individuals. The majority of the time, even when introduced young, Senegals and family don't appreciate being close with other birds.

In fact, my Ruppell's is now missing 2 toenails because my other Poicephaus (Red Bellied) ripped them right off of his body when he accidentally got too close, and I wasn't right there to catch it. Emergency accidents like this between birds can happen in a split second.
 
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SoCalWendy

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I spent the morning putting together Gollums new cage. It came last night.
I am not sure what I am going to do. I had read getting two birds when they are young increases the chance for them to bond. I know they would not ever share a cage but it would increase the chance that I would be able to have them out at the same time. Rather than wait for the Sennie to become mature and territorial, adding another while she is young would be better. However it looks like SoCalWendy did get two when they were young and it didnt work out that way for her. I know there are no guarantees and that birds have different personalities etc, there is no way to know how your parrot will react. Anyhow, I just feel confused. I will do more reading. I also did contact my local Avian Rescue so I can go in and see other birds. Larger birds (not Macaws... they scare me :54: ) They know I am not considering getting a rescue, that I just want to get some experience with birds.
We will see... I have not made my mind up one way or another:confused:

I hope that I didn't give you a bad impression, I just wanted you to be informed of what can happen, so you don't have any regrets. There are no guarantees either way. In my case, both birds were extremely territorial, and really kiwi was the instigator. I kept them both clipped and spaced well apart, but the fights still happend. Rehoming my Senegal was very difficult for me. she was 'my' bird. But Kiwi was here first, and even though she prefers me the most, she is not a one person parrot. Kiwi is much happier being the only bird. She is thriving, and is now flying around getting her exercise. :D
 
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SoCalWendy

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I know how you feel Newbsi. I would LOVE to have another bird, we've had Foo since Jan 2013. I have two old dogs (18 and 11) who require a lot of medical right now. Plus a cage full of pet rats who need their time as well. Being that we don't have the best finances or space and I want to have lots of free time I will wait.

I'm hoping in a few years I can add a lorikeet to our flock. In the mean time it gives me a lot of time to figure out if a lorikeet is the best pet for us and lots of time to learn about them and their specialized diet.

I can definitely relate to the space issue. I live in an RV (5th wheel) It is quite spacious for an RV. I have three large pop outs and my bedroom / bathroom are in one end and the kitchen is in the other end, so I have a good space, but not conducive to having two birds.
 

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Different species, but I had lovebirds while having budgies and cockatiels, and the lovebirds were absolutely little terrors and mean to the others. They had to be out on their own time because otherwise the budgies would lose a foot if I didn't watch them carefully.

This experience has taught me that it is better to get species that are closely related. I'm in no rush to get another bird right now, but I certainly will not adopt a lovebird while owning any other birds again.

I hope everything works out for you and Gollum.
 
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I like the honesty of the board... even if its not always what we WANT to hear lol. Im holding off for just a bit. I am not deciding against getting a IRN. I had already decided it would be a IRN or Eclectus. Its just a matter of when would be best. Who the heck am I kidding, I will end up with both... eventually.
Besides, spending time at this Avian Rescue will not only help me learn but who knows, I might find that there is a different kind of parrot I like more. My luck a Macaw at the rescue will choose me... (and I said I would NEVER get a Macaw and I said I was not going to get a rescue either!)
 
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SilverSage

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I don't want you to think you shouldn't get another bird :) I mean, come on, at one point I had over 40 between my own pets, babies, rescues, fosters... And that's not including the dog, cat, fish, husband, or any of the animals I babysit! So keep you chin up! I am in love with both eclectus (I have two) and irns (I have three). They are just VERY unique and you are new. Smart, but new :) each species is radically different, and you tackled a little bit toug one right from the start, and are talking about adding a second fairly complicated species. If you do add a second bird soon, I just suggest you get a sexually mature individual, ESPECIALLY if it is a ringneck. Also be aware, irns are often sold wild and are one of the most complicated species to tame, so probably avoid that. If/when you add a second bird, just be aware that the chances are you wont be able to let the tow interact, being that your baby is a sennie. That's ok. Many of my. Birds can't be trusted not to eat each other. It's a matter of many play stands, knowing each bird, scheduling, training, and always knowing something CAN go wrong.
 

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