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Unhappy baby gray has diarrhea

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my 7 weeks old gray (Leo) has diarrhea since yesterday 5th of April 2021, nothing has been changed for the past week same food (Nekton baby parrot food) same amount 40ml per serve at temp 40c-42c, 4 times a day (each 6hrs), took him to vet today for bacteria check and came negative, did other check and everything seems to be fine, Leo is active still runs when its feeding time, sleeps well, clean.... help please i'm afraid of loosing my baby Leo
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Re: baby gray has diarrhea

What tests did they run?
Did they do blood work? *not sure if age plays a part in whether they would or not*
Did they swab his throat or crop?
Did they just do a gram stain or an actual culture?



Keep him warmer than usual (not hot and be very cautious about using things like space heaters, which often contain deadly teflon/ptfe/pfoa/pfcs and shoot out fumes when heating). Try to make sure he is eating foods with liquids in them, as dehydration is a risk. Something is clearly wrong if there have been no major diet or lifestyle changes and this just started happening.


How cautious are you about formula temperature and sterile tools/feeding stuff, because temperature and serious attention to cleanliness/cross contamination of surfaces when mixing formula and cleaning syringes between uses=huge.



What kind of vet do you take him to/what are the vet's certifications?

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Re: baby gray has diarrhea

there is one thing i'm not sure if its the reason, i washed his legs under warm tab water for about 30 seconds to remove poop he stepped on and was dry.
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Re: baby gray has diarrhea

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What tests did they run?
Did they do blood work? *not sure if age plays a part in whether they would or not*
Did they swab his throat or crop?
Did they just do a gram stain or an actual culture?



Keep him warmer than usual (not hot and be very cautious about using things like space heaters, which often contain deadly teflon/ptfe/pfoa/pfcs and shoot out fumes when heating). Try to make sure he is eating foods with liquids in them, as dehydration is a risk. Something is clearly wrong if there have been no major diet or lifestyle changes and this just started happening.


Have you stopped feeding formula by syringe and if so, when was he fully weaned by your estimation?
they said its too early for a blood test
they did swap a crop
"Did they just do a gram stain or an actual culture?" i dont know

today i hand fed him all 4 meals, i was using syringe only at mid-night and early morning.

"when was he fully weaned by your estimation?" i didnt understand your quistion
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there is one thing i'm not sure if its the reason, i washed his legs under warm tab water for about 30 seconds to remove poop he stepped on and was dry.

It's possible that he ingested contaminated water (depending on your city/country water supply). I know that I have lived places where drinking the water was only semi-safe for those who grew up doing it and even that still caused occasional illness.

Did he ingest a lot of water?


Also, was he exposed to draft after getting wet? Was the home any warmer than usual? They can get sick from being chilled after a bath unless precautions are taken. Drafts etc= no good. Think about how cold it is to step into 70F conditions when you are fresh out of the shower/dripping wet. That having been said, humans are far better at regulating body temp than parrots (not limited to, but especially young ones). All parrots cannot thermo-regulate like us, which is why they say not to bathe before bed and to potentially warm up the room etc after.


But, again, it could be lots of things...It depends on what tests were run and what kind of a vet you took him to.
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there is one thing i'm not sure if its the reason, i washed his legs under warm tab water for about 30 seconds to remove poop he stepped on and was dry.

It's possible that he ingested contaminated water (depending on your city/country water supply). I know that I have lived places where drinking the water was only semi-safe for those who grew up doing it and even that still caused occasional illness.

Did he ingest a lot of water?


Also, was he exposed to draft after getting wet? Was the home any warmer than usual? They can get sick from being chilled after a bath unless precautions are taken. Drafts etc= no good. Think about how cold it is to step into 70F conditions when you are fresh out of the shower/dripping wet. That having been said, humans are far better at regulating body temp than parrots (not limited to, but especially young ones). All parrots cannot thermo-regulate like us, which is why they say not to bathe before bed and to potentially warm up the room etc after.


But, again, it could be lots of things...It depends on what tests were run and what kind of a vet you took him to.
i washed only his toe's and dried it directly, he was not wet, still i kept him in a blanket for an hour.
the vet told me to keep an eye on him for a couple of days and go back to him if its still the same.
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What tests did they run?
Did they do blood work? *not sure if age plays a part in whether they would or not*
Did they swab his throat or crop?
Did they just do a gram stain or an actual culture?



Keep him warmer than usual (not hot and be very cautious about using things like space heaters, which often contain deadly teflon/ptfe/pfoa/pfcs and shoot out fumes when heating). Try to make sure he is eating foods with liquids in them, as dehydration is a risk. Something is clearly wrong if there have been no major diet or lifestyle changes and this just started happening.


Have you stopped feeding formula by syringe and if so, when was he fully weaned by your estimation?
they said its too early for a blood test
they did swap a crop
"Did they just do a gram stain or an actual culture?" i dont know

today i hand fed him all 4 meals, i was using syringe only at mid-night and early morning.

"when was he fully weaned by your estimation?" i didnt understand your quistion

I asked the weaning question without seeing part of your post. He isn't weaned, so ignore that lol. Sorry! I am reading your other replies, but I edited my original post to remove that after looking back at yours.


You need to contact the vet and ask exactly what tests were run (ask for a copy of the results if you can).
You should be able to google your vet's credentials, and if not, you could also ask his certification over the phone (although that will likely come off as confrontational if you do it when you are also asking for testing paperwork).
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Old 04-05-2021, 05:33 PM
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Re: baby gray has diarrhea

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What tests did they run?
Did they do blood work? *not sure if age plays a part in whether they would or not*
Did they swab his throat or crop?
Did they just do a gram stain or an actual culture?



Keep him warmer than usual (not hot and be very cautious about using things like space heaters, which often contain deadly teflon/ptfe/pfoa/pfcs and shoot out fumes when heating). Try to make sure he is eating foods with liquids in them, as dehydration is a risk. Something is clearly wrong if there have been no major diet or lifestyle changes and this just started happening.


Have you stopped feeding formula by syringe and if so, when was he fully weaned by your estimation?
they said its too early for a blood test
they did swap a crop
"Did they just do a gram stain or an actual culture?" i dont know

today i hand fed him all 4 meals, i was using syringe only at mid-night and early morning.

"when was he fully weaned by your estimation?" i didnt understand your quistion

I asked the weaning question without seeing part of your post. He isn't weaned, so ignore that lol. Sorry! I am reading your other replies, but I edited my original post to remove that after looking back at yours.


You need to contact the vet and ask exactly what tests were run (ask for a copy of the results if you can).
You should be able to google your vet's credentials, and if not, you could also ask his certification over the phone (although that will likely come off as confrontational if you do it when you are also asking for testing paperwork).
i ask him tomorrow, since its 1am here.
any tips for tonight, he if full (fed him an hour ago) and sleep in a dry place with a blanket on his cage-box should be warm i guess
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Yeah- that sounds fine unless you can do more. Pictures might also help. Did the vet agree that it was diarrhea (did he see it)?
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Yeah- that sounds fine unless you can do more. Pictures might also help. Did the vet agree that it was diarrhea (did he see it)?
Yes he saw it
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