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Old 09-12-2015, 01:27 PM
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Re: Plum head mutations

hi rossi. your birds are wild or normal plumheads. iam a breeder of most mutations of plumheads.
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Old 11-10-2015, 03:48 PM
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I have a number of plum head mutations now.. I have opaline, Cinnamon, gg, dilute, lutino and normal 3 Pair cockatiel (pieds) Pair blossom headed (look Very similar to plum head but not
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Re: Plum head mutations

Plum heads... See photo...
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Old 11-16-2015, 12:18 AM
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Re: Plum head mutations

Apparently, a plum head x slaty hybrid male still looks mostly plum head....

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With permission, I could share the photos with some people and get an opinion on what the male could be? May need additional photos as well.
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Old 01-23-2016, 03:31 AM
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I have a number of plum head mutations now.. I have opaline, Cinnamon, gg, dilute, lutino and normal 3 Pair cockatiel (pieds) Pair blossom headed (look Very similar to plum head but not
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Ok thanks.. Don't sound like what my male looks like..
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Re: Plum head mutations

Thats a female.I have a Male its great to have a plum head owner to talk to since they are rare.
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Re: Plum head mutations

Actually no that is a hybrid lol it looked like a female.How old is S/he
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Old 01-23-2016, 10:46 AM
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Re: Plum head mutations

I don't know a thing about plum-headed parakeets but I did a little research. The plum-headed parakeet is Psittacula cyanocephela and the slaty-headed parakeet is Psittacula himalayana. If you had a theoretical bird that was a cross of plum-headed and slaty-headed it would be a hybrid, as these are two different species. Hybridization itself can be a can of worms I do not want to open, but in any case I don't think your actual bird is a hybrid.

Your bird seems like it has a much more vividly blue head than the slaty-headed parakeets. I wouldn't say it's definitely not a hybrid but it seems unlikely that combining the two traits would produce such a vivid blue. I have another idea. The Indian ringneck - same genus Psittacula - has thrown a huge variety of color mutations in captivity. The moustached parakeet also seems to be found in a few color mutations. You may have a color mutation of plum-headed parakeet on your hands, if you don't know the bird's origins and parents I would think the best way to "prove out" this mutation would be to retain those babies, track their colors and track their offsprings' colors.

The issue is - and this is simplifying genetics incredibly - if we are looking at a simple recessive color mutation here you would have to breed two of these heterozygous first generation babies to have a chance at a homozygous second generation bird that exhibits the blue-headed color pattern. That's a bit of inbreeding but it may be worth it to you to try and prove out that color mutation. If I were you, before doing anything including taking deposits on the babies I would get into contact with other plum-headed parakeet breeders and get some advice on how to proceed!
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Re: Plum head mutations

It definitely looks like Plum head and Slaty head.
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Re: Plum head mutations

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It definitely looks like Plum head and Slaty head.
Check the link MonicaMC posted. There's a picture of a known hybrid plum-slaty cross. Further, it alluded to a supposed separate species, Psittacula intermedia, and there are seven taxidermied specimens available. Apparently this "new species" of Intermediate Parakeet has not been found in the wild and the specimens are likely mislabeled plum-slaty crosses. So there's a fairly good basis for what a plum-slaty hybrid would look like.

These crosses have rather purplish faces with some grey, not the bright blue face of the OP's bird. The only thing that is suspect to me is that the OP's bird is missing the red patch on the wings that seems normal in plum-headed parakeet males. Oddly, the hybrid picture on MonicaMC's link has the red wing patches and black lower mandible of a plum-headed and has mostly plum-headed characteristics. OP's bird, like some of the so-called "Intermediate Parakeets", has the black lower mandible but no red wing patches. But his bird has a very unique head color that looks vivid turquoise in some of the pictures.

Basically, I don't know if this is a hybrid but from the supposed hybrid photos I've just looked at, none had a vivid turquoise head. There are also no apparent known color mutations that cause that head color. It could be a hybrid, a color mutation, without knowing the bird's parents the only way to learn more would be to continue to breed the offspring and there are ethics that need to be considered in that situation (potential hybrid production, inbreeding). In any case, interesting bird!
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Re: Plum head mutations

Hmm maybe its a Female.Normal plum females have a blue head and the slaty a grey head combine them it would possibly turn out like his.
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