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Ratzy

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Is for the budgies to come inside!
Mum and Dad are so stubborn and want the cage outside. I see no reason whatsoever to not let them inside! The mess they generate is a problem, but one easily fixed by putting the big plastic sheet under the cage! It would be easier to clean, feed and play with them. They could come out more than twice a week ( !!!!!! )! We don't use teflon pans, no air fresheners, no candles usually! My parents are always complaining about the mess the budgies leave on the 'relaxation chair' next to the cage, and how the sparrows that eat the left over seed are getting too fat to fly! And yet... they still won't let the birds inside?!
Just my little rant. :eek:
 

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Parents are so silly sometimes =P
My mum refuses to let me have my parrot sleep in my bedroom, but he's allowed to be in there any other time.
 

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So sorry. As a parent, I try to be rational in my decisions, but we're just people and sometimes emotion gets in the way. Vent here as much as you need to.
 

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HRH Di, as a teenager (who will in 6 months not be a teenager) I absolutely love my parents, and I know they mean well and always have, despite having a rough time with them during my adolescence. My parents and I have a fantastic relationship now, but like me, they can be stubborn, and my dad in particular likes to use the phrase "because I said so" rather than actually giving an explanation lol.
 

apatrimo94

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Ratzy, my parents are like that with my birds. Not with your situation, they just don't like them. I mean, I'm still in high school, and I got college coming up in one and a half years (I'm a junior in High School), I constantly think about where to put my fids while I'm in college. Because leaving them with my parents is like putting them on a death sentence (Every pet I've ever owned, if they ever had to go in the care of my parents, they'd end up dead). So, for us young kids, our parents don't exactly always see eye to eye with us, but we have to learn to go with it. I love my parents greatly, and they can get on my nerves sometimes, but still, they do what's best for us. Just remember that :)

Maybe you can keep their cage outside, let them fly in the house for a bit, then bring them back to their cage when they're done.
 

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Parents are so silly sometimes =P
My mum refuses to let me have my parrot sleep in my bedroom, but he's allowed to be in there any other time.

I let Mishka sleep in my bedroom, in his night cage.
I place a small blanket under the cage, and one covering the cage.
He is in my bedroom from 8pm till 5am, that is 9 hours solid.
There is so much dust and powder from him it's unbelievable.
Each and every morning at 5am, I dust the entire bedroom, top to bottom, sweep and mop it.

Perhaps this is the reason your mum refuses to let the bird sleep in your bedroom.
Make her a promise that you will clean the room each and every morning, the whole week through.
If you get the go ahead, make sure you stick to your promise.

Give the above a shot, it's worth a try............
 

antoinette

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Is for the budgies to come inside!
Mum and Dad are so stubborn and want the cage outside. I see no reason whatsoever to not let them inside! The mess they generate is a problem, but one easily fixed by putting the big plastic sheet under the cage! It would be easier to clean, feed and play with them. They could come out more than twice a week ( !!!!!! )! We don't use teflon pans, no air fresheners, no candles usually! My parents are always complaining about the mess the budgies leave on the 'relaxation chair' next to the cage, and how the sparrows that eat the left over seed are getting too fat to fly! And yet... they still won't let the birds inside?!
Just my little rant. :eek:


I am not talking sides here................ hear me out

You never mentioned where you want the birds to be if they were to be inside the house........ the lounge, dining room, spare room etc


When we got Mishka I knew, he would be my responsibility 100%.
I am at home basically 24/7. When Mishka makes a mess, I am there
clean it up immediately. Some days, it's heaven other days, total disaster.
Every morning and evening my wall unit gets feathered down, as all the other furniture in the lounge. Then I attack with a mop.
Each evening, his cage gets scrubbed and cleaned.

If my guys wanted to get a bird, I would be the first one to say no.
The are out and about, working and University, who would then keep the place clean.

When I was growing up, we lived in a beautiful enormous house, extra rooms available. The most beautiful backyard, with trees, a swimming pool and a cute little wendyhouse. I was not allowed to have any birds at all, my parents were extremely strict and stubborn.

At the age of 35 I got my first bird, perhaps you should count yourself lucky that you are allowed to keep birds.
 

antoinette

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Ratzy, my parents are like that with my birds. Not with your situation, they just don't like them. I mean, I'm still in high school, and I got college coming up in one and a half years (I'm a junior in High School), I constantly think about where to put my fids while I'm in college. Because leaving them with my parents is like putting them on a death sentence (Every pet I've ever owned, if they ever had to go in the care of my parents, they'd end up dead). So, for us young kids, our parents don't exactly always see eye to eye with us, but we have to learn to go with it. I love my parents greatly, and they can get on my nerves sometimes, but still, they do what's best for us. Just remember that :)

Maybe you can keep their cage outside, let them fly in the house for a bit, then bring them back to their cage when they're done.

Diego I sympathize with you..................
Knowing that your animals would not be cared for properly, while you are away.
I am just making a point here, do not take this the wrong way.
When you got your pets, did you think towards the future, who would look after them, if I were to go to college or University?. What if I got sick, and were not able to keep them any longer?

Possibly your parents do not have the time or patience to have animals.

I loved you comment at the end
You mentioned they do what's best for us, just remember that......


 

apatrimo94

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Diego I sympathize with you..................
Knowing that your animals would not be cared for properly, while you are away.
I am just making a point here,
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do not take this the wrong way.

When you got your pets, did you think towards the future, who would look after them, if I were to go to college or University?. What if I got sick, and were not able to keep them any longer?

Possibly your parents do not have the time or patience to have animals.

I loved you comment at the end
You mentioned they do what's best for us, just remember that......

Ant, to be honest, you're absolutely right. I did not think about college when I adopted S'mores and Bartleby.

It's not that my parents don't have the time, they just don't do it properly and they're too lazy to do it. They think the birds don't need that much care, even after showing them medical reports, care books, etc.

I still have time to think about. I do have a few ideas as to where to keep them when I go off to college.
 

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I let Mishka sleep in my bedroom, in his night cage.
I place a small blanket under the cage, and one covering the cage.
He is in my bedroom from 8pm till 5am, that is 9 hours solid.
There is so much dust and powder from him it's unbelievable.
Each and every morning at 5am, I dust the entire bedroom, top to bottom, sweep and mop it.

Perhaps this is the reason your mum refuses to let the bird sleep in your bedroom.
Make her a promise that you will clean the room each and every morning, the whole week through.
If you get the go ahead, make sure you stick to your promise.
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Give the above a shot, it's worth a try............

They don't have a problem with the mess, because they're happy to have the bird in my room during the day for as long as I want. The promise is already there that it will be kept clean. They are aware that there could be poo and the like in every inch of my room and that's okay. I don't think my parents even know that birds have dust/dander XD
I think it's because she thinks it is unhealthy to sleep with the bird in my room, even though I'll spend my waking time with it and apparently that's not unhealthy.
 
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I know they are just being what they are-parents. I will offer them a one-week trial with the budgies indoors. My parents mean well, but to them a budgie isn't part of the family, just a pet. As for mess... I am willing to clean it all right. They allow me to keep baby chickens and pigeons in my room, why not budgies? You have NOT seen a messy pet until you have kept a pigeon. They go to the extremes ( pigeons )!
That is it. I will offer them a one week trial.
 

antoinette

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I let Mishka sleep in my bedroom, in his night cage.
I place a small blanket under the cage, and one covering the cage.
He is in my bedroom from 8pm till 5am, that is 9 hours solid.
There is so much dust and powder from him it's unbelievable.
Each and every morning at 5am, I dust the entire bedroom, top to bottom, sweep and mop it.

Perhaps this is the reason your mum refuses to let the bird sleep in your bedroom.
Make her a promise that you will clean the room each and every morning, the whole week through.
If you get the go ahead, make sure you stick to your promise.
23_29_117.gif


Give the above a shot, it's worth a try............

They don't have a problem with the mess, because they're happy to have the bird in my room during the day for as long as I want. The promise is already there that it will be kept clean. They are aware that there could be poo and the like in every inch of my room and that's okay. I don't think my parents even know that birds have dust/dander XD
I think it's because she thinks it is unhealthy to sleep with the bird in my room, even though I'll spend my waking time with it and apparently that's not unhealthy.

Your parents are probably thinking of your health in this case, the bedroom is a smaller room, perhaps they are thinking the air is cleaner and safer for you. Could be a number of reasons.
Why not ask them the reason why?
 

antoinette

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Diego I sympathize with you..................
Knowing that your animals would not be cared for properly, while you are away.
I am just making a point here,
23_31_7.gif
do not take this the wrong way.

When you got your pets, did you think towards the future, who would look after them, if I were to go to college or University?. What if I got sick, and were not able to keep them any longer?

Possibly your parents do not have the time or patience to have animals.

I loved you comment at the end
You mentioned they do what's best for us, just remember that......

Ant, to be honest, you're absolutely right. I did not think about college when I adopted S'mores and Bartleby.

It's not that my parents don't have the time, they just don't do it properly and they're too lazy to do it. They think the birds don't need that much care, even after showing them medical reports, care books, etc.

I still have time to think about. I do have a few ideas as to where to keep them when I go off to college.

Some people are bird people others not, obviously your parents are not bird people. Perhaps after you explained everything to them, they realized that this is not an easy task, and have since never taken an interest.

Let us know what your ideas are, pertaining to the birds, when you go off to college. Members could give you so many different options,
and hopefully come up with some great ideas, giving you the answer you are seeking.
 

antoinette

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I know they are just being what they are-parents. I will offer them a one-week trial with the budgies indoors. My parents mean well, but to them a budgie isn't part of the family, just a pet. As for mess... I am willing to clean it all right. They allow me to keep baby chickens and pigeons in my room, why not budgies? You have NOT seen a messy pet until you have kept a pigeon. They go to the extremes ( pigeons )!
That is it. I will offer them a one week trial.

You want them in the bedroom then. I am quite aware of the mess pigeon's make, believe me. I personally would not keep pigeon's or baby chicken's in my bedroom. That's just me.............others may differ.
Maybe, just maybe, your bedroom is already to crowded. They do not want to add any further mess in the bedroom.
Suggest to them a one week trial period, and take it from there.
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Good luck Ratzy
 
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*shrugs* I'm not too concerned about it. My baby will still be allowed to sleep inside (in the laundry) so he'll be warm in winter and cool in summer. I don't really want to push it, so I'll concede and let them have their way on this issue =]
 

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*shrugs* I'm not too concerned about it. My baby will still be allowed to sleep inside (in the laundry) so he'll be warm in winter and cool in summer. I don't really want to push it, so I'll concede and let them have their way on this issue =]

Hey look at it this way, at least you are allowed to have a bird AND keep him indoors
 

HRH Di

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Good luck with the 1 week trial period. I hope it all works out. I'm sure your parents have a reason - at least in their opinion.

Personally - I've never let my kids have a pet that I didn't expect to become my responsibility. As good as their intentions are, life gets a little out of control during the teen years even more than usual. But then, I kind of like having a zoo, so other than the snakes, it wasn't an issue. Birds are much easier - IMO - than say an aquarium and really no more work or mess than a dog or cat.

We're getting to the point now, though, that as we lose the quadrapeds to age, we won't be getting more; but going strickly avian.
 

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