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Old 07-16-2019, 05:12 AM
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I really need help and I am about to give up..

So I have two budgies
They love each other and I want to be part of the flock I have tried everything but nothig seems to work.
Maybe they love each other too much and they just won’t accept me? I know it is much harder to tame two vs one but I have tried it for 6months now... please help..thx


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Old 07-16-2019, 09:03 AM
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Re: I really need help and I am about to give up..

Awww they sound like mine. I did give up, and got myself a friendly conure to go with them.

That said, I was lucky enough to find out (before I got Sunny) that they do consider me a sort of (unappreciated), Big Scary Person -type member of their flock. Yours probably do too!

I went to visit some bird loving friends overnight. Their house is quite large, and two of my friends were looking in on my budgies before I was up. As I came downstairs I said "Hi" to their birds in another room I passed through. My friends were delighted. They told me how MY budgies had perked up happily when they heard my voice.!!!!!! I would never have observed this myself.

Once I knew this, there were other subtle signs they actually did kinda accept me. But again, yours probably do too, and just hide it, because they find it confusing to consider a Big Scary Person as part of their flock.

Everyone here will tell you to read to them and sing to them. Here are a few other tips:

Here are a few other tips:
Birdie Exercise! When they are on their perches and start doing their little wing-stretching routine, align yourself with their perches as best you can and do your best version of their stretches. Pretty soon you'll find that you can initiate the stretching and they will follow. That means, You're In!! (It does NOT mean they're tame, however. Only that they accept you.)

Another biggie is eating time. If they are eating, bring some food and sit and eat at the same time. This will also quickly work in reverse, as long as they have food available.

Also. Don't forget to sit &watch them & enjoy their presence. They each have their own little --or in the case of my Mr. Bossypants Jefferson, gigantic --personalities. But budgies default setting is Timidity First. The more you sit observing them, the more you will get to know them, and, the more they will relax around you.

For example, if one of them wants to boss around everyone, Including You, you might miss it unless you're paying quiet attention. Then, you may realize your little Bossypants is determinedly trying to communicate with you. Mine is very voluble with the body language.

Now, there are other great tips on this website about how to TAME your budgies. I personally have not been really successful with those. If they were petstore budgies, like mine, then Taming them is gonna take you some work.

I copped out & added a friendly happy Sun Conure. She is very easy to please, all she wants is All my Time and Attention.

Unsurprisingly, the Taming of the budgies has not progressed any since Sunny arrived. They are definitely more tame than when I got them, but that is the only sense in which the word "tame" applies to them.

However, the budgies definitely consider us all to be a four-member flock. (Of whom tiny little Jefferson Budgie considers himself the managerial supervisor.) But they STILL pretend to not acknowledge me, when they can.

Anyway, this is only tips for Joining Their Flock -- or maybe, for finding signs that you already have done so. I'm definitely Not a good advisor for taming them:; if you follow my plan in that regard, you could be at risk for developing Bird Aquisition Syndrome.
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Old 07-16-2019, 09:29 AM
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Re: I really need help and I am about to give up..

Unless gotten as hand fed tame babies, budgies are usually better suited in 'flocks' of their own kind and if you get them already with another budgie, generally are great around each other and other birds but want little human interaction.

This is pretty normal/typical behavior of store bought budgies or ones kept with other birds for their whole lives, little human interaction early on leads them to be fearful of humans. We do have members here who have birds like this kept solely in flight cages with same species birds (budgies) and this is just something you accept and have to offer unconditional love to them even though they don't really like you. The best thing for them is to be healthy and happy, and if that means little interaction with you, that's okay.

You can do things to make them less fearful of you and even hand tame, but they may never want to hang out with you and cuddle with you. Trust can be earned with these birds but typically they still tend to prefer other birds. It is what it is and we must love them either way.

Here's a helpful resource for developing trust with your birds while they are inside the cage. No need to force them to cuddle you.

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Old 07-16-2019, 10:48 AM
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Re: I really need help and I am about to give up..

Fifty years ago (OMG! 50 yrs?? where did the time go??? ) when I turned thirteen my mom bought me a store budgie (from K-Mart of all places) Wally was a very young dude and he was an only bird. It took me less than a week to get him finger trained and tame and he blossomed into the most awesomest little lovable,mischieviest,funniest talkative FRIENDLY little guy...but then again,he was an only bird. I've heard it CAN be done,having two budgies that are cool with themselves and their human(s),then other stories where they don't give a rats patooie too.
Keep trying and good luck!


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Re: I really need help and I am about to give up..

Quote: Originally Posted by fiddlejen View Post
Awww they sound like mine. I did give up, and got myself a friendly conure to go with them.

That said, I was lucky enough to find out (before I got Sunny) that they do consider me a sort of (unappreciated), Big Scary Person -type member of their flock. Yours probably do too!

I went to visit some bird loving friends overnight. Their house is quite large, and two of my friends were looking in on my budgies before I was up. As I came downstairs I said "Hi" to their birds in another room I passed through. My friends were delighted. They told me how MY budgies had perked up happily when they heard my voice.!!!!!! I would never have observed this myself.

Once I knew this, there were other subtle signs they actually did kinda accept me. But again, yours probably do too, and just hide it, because they find it confusing to consider a Big Scary Person as part of their flock.

Everyone here will tell you to read to them and sing to them. Here are a few other tips:

Here are a few other tips:
Birdie Exercise! When they are on their perches and start doing their little wing-stretching routine, align yourself with their perches as best you can and do your best version of their stretches. Pretty soon you'll find that you can initiate the stretching and they will follow. That means, You're In!! (It does NOT mean they're tame, however. Only that they accept you.)

Another biggie is eating time. If they are eating, bring some food and sit and eat at the same time. This will also quickly work in reverse, as long as they have food available.

Also. Don't forget to sit &watch them & enjoy their presence. They each have their own little --or in the case of my Mr. Bossypants Jefferson, gigantic --personalities. But budgies default setting is Timidity First. The more you sit observing them, the more you will get to know them, and, the more they will relax around you.

For example, if one of them wants to boss around everyone, Including You, you might miss it unless you're paying quiet attention. Then, you may realize your little Bossypants is determinedly trying to communicate with you. Mine is very voluble with the body language.

Now, there are other great tips on this website about how to TAME your budgies. I personally have not been really successful with those. If they were petstore budgies, like mine, then Taming them is gonna take you some work.

I copped out & added a friendly happy Sun Conure. She is very easy to please, all she wants is All my Time and Attention.

Unsurprisingly, the Taming of the budgies has not progressed any since Sunny arrived. They are definitely more tame than when I got them, but that is the only sense in which the word "tame" applies to them.

However, the budgies definitely consider us all to be a four-member flock. (Of whom tiny little Jefferson Budgie considers himself the managerial supervisor.) But they STILL pretend to not acknowledge me, when they can.

Anyway, this is only tips for Joining Their Flock -- or maybe, for finding signs that you already have done so. I'm definitely Not a good advisor for taming them:; if you follow my plan in that regard, you could be at risk for developing Bird Aquisition Syndrome.

LMAO!!! Jen, I just LOVE your description and names of your fids lol Mr BossyPants Jefferson had me ROTFLMAO!


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Old 07-16-2019, 06:12 PM
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Re: I really need help and I am about to give up..

As others have said you are already a part of the flock but to me it sounds like they have a closer bond to each other. Think of yourself as the third wheel when your two friends are dating. They like having you around but you end up being excluded because they really only have eyes for each other.
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