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Old 07-20-2018, 09:42 AM
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Re: Please stop: "buying the biggest cage you can afford is the best rule of thumb"

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Thanks! I'm going to save this thread as a reference for members inquiring about cage size.
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Re: Please stop: "buying the biggest cage you can afford is the best rule of thumb"

That makes total sense Kiwibird
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Re: Please stop: "buying the biggest cage you can afford is the best rule of thumb"

I agree - but I've also learned to plan for emergencies.
(My mother broke her back a few months ago , she lives 2 hours away single trip. I had to go overthere regularly.)
So if something happens that they should stay in their cage more than they (or I ) would like - at least they have enough space!


But of course- a free-roaming parrot is almost not a caged parrot at all.
So if it likes to sleep in a shoe-box ... you have my blessings
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Old 07-20-2018, 12:55 PM
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Re: Please stop: "buying the biggest cage you can afford is the best rule of thumb"

Very helpful tables linked to; perhaps it should be stickey'd in the appropriate sub-forum. I went off of what the Mango my gold-capped was being housed in the PSP I bought him from (a roomy Madison from Prevue). Moch got herself a standing-tower setup she's quite happy to crawl up and down within.
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Old 07-20-2018, 02:25 PM
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Re: Please stop: "buying the biggest cage you can afford is the best rule of thumb"

Quote: Originally Posted by Kiwibird View Post
I think cage size is highly highly dependent on how much out of cage time. My mom's amazons cage is very small by todays standards for a large amazon. That said, her amazon basically only sleeps in there or gets put up if food is cooking. Otherwise, she's free all day long and has a 3000 sq ft house that's hers to roam. A large cage is not required for a bird with that much freedom. My dads little goffins cockatoo, on the other hand, is untrustworthy and therefore caged most of the day in a HUGE cage due to not being out except in the mornings and evenings. Both birds are content and happy with their respective cages despite the fact the larger bird is in the smaller cage because she has more out of cage time than the smaller bird who only spends a few hours a day out of his cage.

My amazon has a huge cage, but is free roaming and TBH, he really doesn't need as big of a cage as he has (and it's not even close to double his wingspan) because he chooses to spend time in it or not. Obviously not everyone is in a position to allow their birds to be free range all day long, so I think a better rule would be that cage size should increase every waking hour on a typical day your bird will spend in the cage. And if someones bird genuinely *needs* a giant aviary sized cage to get adequate exercise and comfort in because they spend so little time out of the cage and able to spread their wings, then one needs to reconsider owning a parrot.

I totally agree with this. Yoda's cage is as big as we could afford and fit in our home, but he's only in there when he sleeps. I work from home and he's probably only in his cage for about 8 waking hours per week. So in reality, his cage is the entire house.... no... actually the reality is his cage is the size of MY personal space. lol!
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Re: Please stop: "buying the biggest cage you can afford is the best rule of thumb"

I have no idea what size my cages are. I have 2 budgies and a lovebird. They get lots of time out of cage.

I can tell you they are big and they are so wide they barely fit through the door to take them outside to clean them. I can also safely say I'm pretty sure my 3 dorm fridge would fit in my lovebirds cage.

They are also bigger than what's recommend.
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Re: Please stop: "buying the biggest cage you can afford is the best rule of thumb"

I measured lovies cage

32 in tall
19 1/2 wide
15 in deep

Budgie 28x27

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Re: Please stop: "buying the biggest cage you can afford is the best rule of thumb"

Quote: Originally Posted by flyzipper View Post
This isn't the best rule of thumb, it's the laziest, and is repeated far too often when people ask how big a cage needs to be for X species.



The following site does a better job at specifying actual sizes, based on something tangible (wingspan)...

https://naturalinspirationsparrotcag.../wingspan-info

Keep in mind their 1.5 - 2x wingspan guideline is a minimum recommendation.

Bigger is better.
I don't see the advice as "lazy" but rather given absent empirical evidence. Many folks make a judgement based on approximate wingspan and activity level. Sadly, birds are not sold with an "owners manual" and folks must glean information from a wide variety of sources - often of dubious quality. So when in doubt, as you conclude, bigger is better.

I typically advise the cage budget include furnishing the interior to include perches of higher quality than "standard" dowels, toys, etc.
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Re: Please stop: "buying the biggest cage you can afford is the best rule of thumb"

If every pet parrot could have an aviary, it would be a dream come true! However, not all owners can afford it for various reasons, therefore a comfy cage is a good option. Each bird has different needs, and like said, wingspan should be the main aspect when it comes to choosing the right home for parrots.
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Re: Please stop: "buying the biggest cage you can afford is the best rule of thumb"

I didn't want a parrot, my daughter and husband did. I told them if we get one we're going to have to build a screened in porch. I don't want a bird crapping in my house all day nor do I want to leave it in a cage for long periods of time. So the screened porch was pretty much built just for little Peanut. The only time she's in her cage is to sleep or when I leave the house, which during the week isn't much because I work from home. The entire porch is basically her cage.
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