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Old 05-14-2019, 12:10 PM
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This parrot is if Latin America... Right?

I can't get in South Asia.

Which parrot is similar to caique in my region.

I don't find Alex as active , naughty and Playful as a caique.

I will appreciate your opinions.

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Old 05-14-2019, 01:20 PM
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Re: I want a caique

Maybe you'll find some Conures similar to caiques in many aspects.. They can be both naughty and playful, very entertaining birds that do need lots of attention from their owners. Do you mind sharing with us your prior experience with parrots?
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Old 05-14-2019, 01:24 PM
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Re: I want a caique

You will likely find Heero's energy level to increase as he gets a bit older, he is still just a baby.



That said, I agree that a small conure could be quite playful and naughty while still being quite affectionate.
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Re: I want a caique

I have seen caiques for sale in Hong Kong, on the Bird Street , Sundays. If this helps. I met one who was a mush-ball of Fluffy feathers ( uncharacteristic).
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Old 05-14-2019, 10:33 PM
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Re: I want a caique

Quote: Originally Posted by Aratingettar View Post
Maybe you'll find some Conures similar to caiques in many aspects.. They can be both naughty and playful, very entertaining birds that do need lots of attention from their owners. Do you mind sharing with us your prior experience with parrots?
Here's from his post history:

From 6 April this year:

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Hi all, I am Intisar from Pakistan, My son, 8 years is interested to have a parrot. I brought a pair of cocktail parrots , male 8 months , female 18 months, ( as the birds shop man told me)
but the keep fighting and male bird , though was a bit trained but suddenly started biting,
so we decided to return these to birds shop and bring one alexandrine BABY parrot.
is that ok to keep one alexandrine parrot? what should i go for ? a male alexandrine parrot or a female? which can be trained well for getting friendly and to teach talking ?
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And one last question, what should I prefer??
Male or female parrot? As I will keep single parrot
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i have a plenty of place including a huge cage,
now am going to have a parrot who can eat on his own, thnx and love


From 7 April this year
He then bought an unweaned 2-3 week old Alexandrine (a bird which is illegally sold in Pakistan).

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Yes , but honestly speaking my son did not agree, he insisted so badly to have this baby, he thinks a baby can b more friendly by the time , so on a commitment that he will not take care of him, and only I will feed him until it is on hand feed , I got this baby ,
From 23 April, he had two posts - one for his Alexandrine being ill and one where he said the Alexandrine was not ill

When advised to ask the vet to do tests to make sure his bird was ok, he responded with the following:
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I really understand band appreciate your advices and concerns.
Let me share a couple of thoughts with u all dear and respected fellows,
We are 6 people at home , we the husband wife and our 4 kids , and now we count the family of 8 members, including Heero and Tweety.
The whole family is concerned about both and specially Heero, treating him as an infant.
My elder sons call home and ask about his feed and temperature (of room)many times in a day,
I watch him a lot of times from office through a video call. Abdur Rahman the master of heeero controls every one , no shouting no loudness of tv
Etc.
And above all, before bringing the Heero and Tweety we had a long meeting with Abdur Rahman and his siblings about the rights of animals and specially the parrots and our responsibilities of taking care if them.
We all are in love of Tweety and heero , but more than that we try to take care of them well because they are creativity of Allah and we can't afford to make Allah angry with us, we are answerable if we do not care of the parrots very well.
Our Prophet Muhammad PBUH has given clear cut instructions about the rights of animals , we are even not allowed to disturb any animal while sleeping.
U just pray that Allah give us strength to take care of his creation and fulfill our responsibility about these sweet lovely parrots.
After some debate (some members mentioned religion being irrelevant to healthcare), he ultimately said:
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we are going to take a second opinion tonight to another doctor, and tried to investigate and found this one much experienced specially about parrots

He also has regular updates on his birds - both the Alexandrine (Heero) and cockatiel (Tweety). Updates includes:

From 24 April:
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Tweety is almost of 9 months and verry happy active runs here and there, but during the whole day he whistles are speaks just once or twice.
I have seen a lot of cocktiels in YouTube videos they are whistling singing and making a lot of noise, i wonder why not my Tweety doing the same and why I keep silent most of the time.
From 15 May:
After a member suggests looking into the bird might be sick if the bird can stink up a whole room, he responds:
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I don't think Heero has got any infection or sour crop, he is very active , not dull at all,
, And yes he smells if I touch my nose to him, but by the time the smell spreads in room that is disturbing
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Re: I want a caique

So what is the point?? Why mentioning the history which is already there. I felt it very strange and insulting , the way u put every thing here as a cop brings history of a doubt full person?


And let me clear here that it is not illegal to purchase , sell or keep an Alex in pakistan, so do not say any thing wrong and against the fact,



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Quote: Originally Posted by Aratingettar View Post
Maybe you'll find some Conures similar to caiques in many aspects.. They can be both naughty and playful, very entertaining birds that do need lots of attention from their owners. Do you mind sharing with us your prior experience with parrots?
Here's from his post history:

From 6 April this year:

Quote:
Hi all, I am Intisar from Pakistan, My son, 8 years is interested to have a parrot. I brought a pair of cocktail parrots , male 8 months , female 18 months, ( as the birds shop man told me)
but the keep fighting and male bird , though was a bit trained but suddenly started biting,
so we decided to return these to birds shop and bring one alexandrine BABY parrot.
is that ok to keep one alexandrine parrot? what should i go for ? a male alexandrine parrot or a female? which can be trained well for getting friendly and to teach talking ?






From 7 April this year
He then bought an unweaned 2-3 week old Alexandrine (a bird which is illegally sold in Pakistan).



From 23 April, he had two posts - one for his Alexandrine being ill and one where he said the Alexandrine was not ill

When advised to ask the vet to do tests to make sure his bird was ok, he responded with the following:


After some debate (some members mentioned religion being irrelevant to healthcare), he ultimately said:



He also has regular updates on his birds - both the Alexandrine (Heero) and cockatiel (Tweety). Updates includes:

From 24 April:
Quote:
Tweety is almost of 9 months and verry happy active runs here and there, but during the whole day he whistles are speaks just once or twice.
I have seen a lot of cocktiels in YouTube videos they are whistling singing and making a lot of noise, i wonder why not my Tweety doing the same and why I keep silent most of the time.
From 15 May:
After a member suggests looking into the bird might be sick if the bird can stink up a whole room, he responds:
Quote:
I don't think Heero has got any infection or sour crop, he is very active , not dull at all,
, And yes he smells if I touch my nose to him, but by the time the smell spreads in room that is disturbing

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Old 05-15-2019, 12:58 AM
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Re: I want a caique

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And let me clear here that it is not illegal to purchase , sell or keep an Alex in pakistan, so do not say any thing wrong and against the fact,

It may not be illegal but it is definitely quite unethical to buy a Wild Caught Species that is rapidly declining across its range - already close to extinction in Cambodia.

And additionally it is unethical to buy an unweaned baby, even if captive bred.
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And let me clear here that it is not illegal to purchase , sell or keep an Alex in pakistan, so do not say any thing wrong and against the fact,

It may not be illegal but it is definitely quite unethical to buy a Wild Caught Species that is rapidly declining across its range - already close to extinction in Cambodia.

And additionally it is unethical to buy an unweaned baby, even if captive bred.
From the International Journal of Science and Knowledge:
"They are critically endangered in Pakistan, especially in Punjab province (BirdLife International, 2013). This numbers are less in nature due to loss of habitat and excessive poaching its chick. Although their sale is officially banned in Pakistan but available in Lahore."
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Re: I want a caique

Quote: Originally Posted by Intisar View Post
So what is the point?? Why mentioning the history which is already there. I felt it very strange and insulting , the way u put every thing here as a cop brings history of a doubt full person?


And let me clear here that it is not illegal to purchase , sell or keep an Alex in pakistan, so do not say any thing wrong and against the fact,
As mentioned above to Cardinal, from the International Journal of Science and Knowledge:
"They are critically endangered in Pakistan, especially in Punjab province (BirdLife International, 2013). This numbers are less in nature due to loss of habitat and excessive poaching its chick. Although their sale is officially banned in Pakistan but available in Lahore."
See link here

As for your 'history', some users don't have the time to read all historical posts to get a better understanding of a poster's wants and needs and experience. I was hoping to be succinct without twisting any words - a lot of things can be lost in translation, so I hoped by quoting that I could avoid misinterpreting anything. I always try to defer to the truth.

Members on this forum know that if I am in the wrong, I will not hesitate to apologise. So do let me know if I have erroneously presented anything, and I will rectify it immediately.
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Re: I want a caique

@Intisar After reading all the above.. I think i want to discourage you to getting either Caique or Conure. These birds are high-maintenance, require lots of attention and can easily become unbearable to the owners when not given proper care and attention - they can be moody and "bitey".
Since you already have some parrots, take your time to know their needs best, how to live with them and care for them for the next years to come. Keep in mind that both Conures and Caiques, despite their relatively small bodies do have large and strong beaks - can do a lot of mess/harm -- just something I think you should consider.
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