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Old 06-11-2019, 05:28 AM
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hi i have two caiques and i was wondering if anyone else uses a hammock for their birds.
i made thiers out of fleece, i used the same material to make fleece cage liners for my guinea pigs and chinchilla.
my two birds sleep in there every night snuggled up together.
but why i am asking, is because some people say that hammocks can cause behaviour issues.
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Old 06-11-2019, 06:42 AM
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It is sweet that you made them something. Sadly, this is true. That having been said, it is going to be your call ultimately--I don't know your birds.

Hammocks, tents, huts etc absolutely can cause behavioral issues (and health issues)! They are hormonal triggers 99% of the time and they have the potential to create broody little monsters without people connecting the dots between new behavior and hammocks etc. You don't want your bird to have access to any shadowy spaces (inside or outside of the cage). A hormonal bird can engage in heightened aggression, territorial behaviors, screaming, feather destruction, jealously, egg laying and egg-binding.

In the wild, birds are in hollows when they are laying eggs, seeking a mate or tending to babies. Hammocks simulate a hollow or a nest and that increases their hormone production.

Just because you don't think it is impacting your birds hormones doesn't mean it isn't. A member recently posted about her egg-bound bird who showed no signs of being hormonal other than enjoying sleeping in her hammock in the evenings.

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Re: hammock

Hi Rita. Everything Noodles mentioned is fact based. In addition to being hormone triggers, parrots can ingest fibers, man made or natural, and wind up with blockage of their digestive systems, an often fatal condition. As has been stated elsewhere, healthy adult parrots are capable of perching all night, without the use of huts, hammocks, beds, bungalows, sofas or shacks. Ditch the hammock, make sure you have the correct diameter perches for your caiques and they will be fine sleeping on them.
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oh dear, i might have to remove the fleece. what a shame they snuggle up and sleep on thier sides they look so sweet, they often take afternoon naps as well.
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Re: hammock

You could try switching to a seagrass hammock? I’m collecting toys and foragers in preparation for our future new baby and Ive seen some online and physical shops near me carrying an open seagrass mat ‘hammock’ that would allow the bird to play/hang/nap on if it wanted to. Im keeping something like this in mind as a possibility as a stimulatory toy (not a sleeping place) because its open and made from safe materials.
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You could try switching to a seagrass hammock? I’m collecting toys and foragers in preparation for our future new baby and Ive seen some online and physical shops near me carrying an open seagrass mat ‘hammock’ that would allow the bird to play/hang/nap on if it wanted to. Im keeping something like this in mind as a possibility as a stimulatory toy (not a sleeping place) because its open and made from safe materials.
It's only partly about the material-- ANY SHADOWY space puts them in nesting mode....You don't want hammocks of any kind (even when made of "bird safe" materials).

Are you talking about the foraging walls?
Those are generally okay, as long as they are flush with a flat surface---I had one hanging over my too's cage (away from any walls) and she started putting her head under it and getting broody, so I had to move it to a different location in full sun where it casts less of a shadow and she can't get under it.
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Re: hammock

well i took down their fleece while they were out in the aviary. they did not like it, they kept shouting and would not settle on the perches to sleep, i covered the cage over with the blanket as normal to settle them down, but they would not sleep they just kept on shouting, so i gave in and put the fleece back in, they climbed up and went straight to sleep. what can i do.
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Take it out in the morning and then ignore them if they scream...They may take a day to adjust, but there's a reason they are so mad it's gone..
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Re: hammock

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You could try switching to a seagrass hammock? I’m collecting toys and foragers in preparation for our future new baby and Ive seen some online and physical shops near me carrying an open seagrass mat ‘hammock’ that would allow the bird to play/hang/nap on if it wanted to. Im keeping something like this in mind as a possibility as a stimulatory toy (not a sleeping place) because its open and made from safe materials.
It's only partly about the material-- ANY SHADOWY space puts them in nesting mode....You don't want hammocks of any kind (even when made of "bird safe" materials).

Are you talking about the foraging walls?
Those are generally okay, as long as they are flush with a flat surface---I had one hanging over my too's cage (away from any walls) and she started putting her head under it and getting broody, so I had to move it to a different location in full sun where it casts less of a shadow and she can't get under it.
No, not the foraging walls. Its actually more like a swing, like this https://www.parrotbox.com.au/collect...nt=36782467857
I totally get you don’t want any shadowy place but I thought something like this if hung in a well lit open area of the cage would be ok as it could hold foot toys, or be a swing, or just be a resting/transition space across the cage?
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You could try switching to a seagrass hammock? I’m collecting toys and foragers in preparation for our future new baby and Ive seen some online and physical shops near me carrying an open seagrass mat ‘hammock’ that would allow the bird to play/hang/nap on if it wanted to. Im keeping something like this in mind as a possibility as a stimulatory toy (not a sleeping place) because its open and made from safe materials.
It's only partly about the material-- ANY SHADOWY space puts them in nesting mode....You don't want hammocks of any kind (even when made of "bird safe" materials).

Are you talking about the foraging walls?
Those are generally okay, as long as they are flush with a flat surface---I had one hanging over my too's cage (away from any walls) and she started putting her head under it and getting broody, so I had to move it to a different location in full sun where it casts less of a shadow and she can't get under it.
No, not the foraging walls. Its actually more like a swing, like this https://www.parrotbox.com.au/collect...nt=36782467857
I totally get you don’t want any shadowy place but I thought something like this if hung in a well lit open area of the cage would be ok as it could hold foot toys, or be a swing, or just be a resting/transition space across the cage?
Oh--- I see! The mat you posted in the link could be fine for some birds and not fine for others. Personally, I have a feeling my bird would get super-broody if she had something like that (I could also see mine getting her foot stuck because she isn't very graceful). That having been said, I don't think all birds would have hormonal problems with a sea-grass mat like that, but some definitely would. The one pictured in your link is open (non-shadowy) and made a safer materials (which makes it way safer than a hut of any sort)....Whether it impacts bird behavior will be bird-specific.

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