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Old 01-22-2019, 10:57 AM
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A little worried... Need some thoughts!

So we got Chessie our unknown aged adult pearl like... Maybe a year ago... She was a fantastic flyer. I noticed a couple weeks ago that she would crash or miss her landing sometimes. Now she can't fly from the floor up to her cage. She tries, but fails.

Everything else seems fine. Her temperament, eating, drinking, personality. It's all the same.

I was thinking maybe she's just not as strong as when they found her outside living and now she prefers her cage so she's just lost some muscle tone? I'm a little worried.
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Old 01-22-2019, 12:13 PM
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Re: A little worried... Need some thoughts!

That's definitely not good Yumgrinder...Do her feathers appear to be normal? Has she been molting a lot or any plucking that you've noticed?

Even though she was found outside and flying a lot more than a captive/pet bird does, and a lot more than she has been since you took her in, that should have no-bearing at all on her ability to fly...Yes, I'm sure her muscle-tone is less than it was when she was living outside in the wild, but her muscle-tone wouldn't be any different than any other pet bird, you know what I mean?

I hate to say this, but a lot of the time when a bird loses the ability to control their flying/landing, or loses the ability to fly at all as you're describing (like she cannot gain any altitude at all now, which slowly happened over-time, starting with a loss of control while flying to now not being able to fly at all), if it's not related to an issue with their flight feathers (say they are plucking their flight-feathers or another bird is doing it to them, or for whatever the cause they have lost a lot of their flight feathers), it's actually caused by a Neurological issue, such as one caused by an Avian Viral Disease...

I'd be getting her to your CAV ASAP, and getting full blood-work done, including the blood-tests for PBFD, ABV, and PDD...You well-know that you cannot ever be too careful when they are displaying any signs/symptoms of Neurological issues/disease...

I'm so sorry you're dealing with this...It's good that she's still eating/drinking and acting normally, but it sounds like this has been slowly progressing over-time, and you need to figure out what is going on ASAP...
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Old 01-22-2019, 12:14 PM
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Re: A little worried... Need some thoughts!

Oh no! I hope things are turn out OK. Are you sure she didn’t hurt herself in her last crash?
How long has she been unable to fly?

Personally, I don’t think she lost muscle tone. I have a wild caught rescue, Max, who flies just fine at home and he came from the wild. (He, however, has coordination problems and crashes into things as well. We’ve since come a long way and the sudden crashes have stopped, for most of the part).

An appointment with the CAV would be the way to go! We’re rooting for you, Chessie! Please keep us updated
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Old 01-22-2019, 12:38 PM
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Re: A little worried... Need some thoughts!

YumGrinder, something else that I've seen cause birds to suddenly lose control while flying is a bad inner-ear infection. It severely throws-off their balance, and when it's bad enough they just can't get airborne at all. I just thought of a Pionus we had at the Rescue a few years ago that suddenly started crashing, and she had a bleeding wing due to a crash, and the CAV assumed that the reason she could no longer control her flying was due to the injured wing. So he put her on Metacam and we assumed it would heal and she'd be fine, but instead it got worse to the point that she could no longer gain any altitude, and eventually she stopped trying to fly...At the same time she stopped flying completely, she also fell off a perch, and that was enough for me to take her right to our CAV's office for an x-ray, and it showed that the inner-ear infection had gotten so bad that it had cause a slight remodeling of the bones in her ear canal...So if this started a few weeks ago with your Cockatiel and has gotten progressively worse, it could very well be a bad inner-ear infection, and in that case you need to get her to your CAV for him to look in her ears and probably should do a regular x-ray to make sure...A culture and the proper Antibiotic or Anti-Fungal is obviously the treatment for that, and that would be one of the better causes and easier ones to treat...
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Re: A little worried... Need some thoughts!

I think that Yumgrinder had a bird die from PDD (I could be wrong)... a Nanday named Cheddar? Didn’t he die from PDD that he got from the pet store? I really hope that it didn’t spread to Chessie as well. I hope she gets better. I would take her to the avian vet immediately to get her tested.
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Old 01-22-2019, 02:10 PM
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Re: A little worried... Need some thoughts!

Quote: Originally Posted by FlyBirdiesFly View Post
I think that Yumgrinder had a bird die from PDD (I could be wrong)... a Nanday named Cheddar? Didn’t he die from PDD that he got from the pet store? I really hope that it didn’t spread to Chessie as well. I hope she gets better. I would take her to the avian vet immediately to get her tested.
Yes, he did...I was thinking the same thing, though the odds of that happening are very low, you never know...Hoping it's just something like an inner-ear infection or a sinus infection, or possibly even an injury to a wing...
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Re: A little worried... Need some thoughts!

These are serious symptoms Birds only stop eating when very very ill they will still pretend to eat, or eat less. Remember just recently we had an egg bound female sun conure with a huge egg, she was still eating.. I hope you can get her to the vets, and that it is treatable. I would take all of your birds in for a check up and blood work and fecal exam. My thoughts with you.
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Re: A little worried... Need some thoughts!

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These are serious sympathy. Birds only stop eating when very very I'll, or they will still pretend to eat, or eat less. Remember just recently we had an egg bound female dun conure with a huge egg, she was still eating.. I hope you can get her to the vets, and that it is treatable. I would take all of your birds in for a check up and blood work and fecal exam. My thoughts with you.

That's a great idea at this point, since there is a possibility of ABV/PDD being spread around. I doubt that is what is going on, but at this point you can't be too careful...
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Re: A little worried... Need some thoughts!

Yes unfortunately I would be heading to the vet about this one. Cockatiels are innately such strong flyers so if Chessie is having trouble getting airborne I would suspect she does have a problem. I sincerely hope you have a good outcome with her.
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Re: A little worried... Need some thoughts!

Truly excellent advice provided above!

The weight to flight surface area of a tiel is so low that a good sneeze will get them airborne.
A flight active Amazon that is a much heavier weight to flight surface area can actively fly with 33% of the Primary Flight Surface area removed.

I hope that you are already at your CAV's Clinic my friend.
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