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Old 04-14-2019, 02:54 AM
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I bought cockatiel from the pet shop month ago.I managed to make him come , sit on my shoulder even eat a bit from my hand.But I made the mistake to move him with his cage, because my girlfriend started cooking in multy cooker which is mostly teflon and I was consurned for him.After that he started sqwacking loud with crest down and his body and head straight up.
My girlfriend told me that hes fine when im not around.
I really dont know how to proceed.He is scared from me a lot I think.Any suggestions will be more than welcome!
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Old 04-14-2019, 07:11 AM
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Re: Please help

Easy fix! Stay away! Kidding!! Poor FB humor! The biggest thing is for you to not act upset over this! He is reading you!
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Old 04-14-2019, 07:24 AM
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Re: Please help

1- Tell your girlfriend she cannot cook with teflon! It is not okay....it is very risky. Seriously---get rid of it.
2- Start back at the basics by doing quiet things around the bird to build trust, but don't force physical contact etc.
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Re: Please help

You absolutely CANNOT USE ANYTHING WITH TEFLON OR ANY OTHER NON-STICK COATINGS THAT CONTAIN ANY OF THE PERFLUORINATED-COMPOUNDS IN THEM, SUCH AS PFOA, PTFE, ETC. WHILE YOUR BIRD IS ANYWHERE IN THE SAME HOUSE. PERIOD.

Yes, I'm screaming at you because as Noodles alreay stated above, you are going to kill your bird, it's not at all okay, and your girlfriend needs to realize this. It doesn't matter if she is cooking in the kitchen and your bird is on a totally different floor behind a shut-door, all it takes is one whiff of the off-gassed fumes under the door, through ventilation, etc. and your bird will die...And they die instantly, there's nothing you can do to help them or save them...We've had dozens and dozens of stories on here of people having their birds down in their basement behind a closed-door, 2 floors away from where they were cooking with Teflon-coated pots/pans, a George Foreman Grill (they are ALL deadly), a Toaster Oven, Convection Oven, an electric or non-electric Griddle, etc., or they where they were running a Space-Heater, an Air-Purifier, etc., and their birds suddenly gasping for air, they all ran their birds outside for air immediately, and their birds all drop over dead within a minute or two of them breathing the fumes in...Many people have lost ALL OF THEIR BIRDS AT ONE TIME...So your girlfriend and yourself both need to take an inventory of your home, and if you have ANYTHING that you're not sure is 100% safe, you need to throw it away and buy a safe replacement with no Teflon and no Perfluorinated-Compounds...
(It's not just "Teflon", Teflon is actually a brand-name of a non-stick coating that contains Perfluorinated Compounds...The fact is that ANY Cookware, Bakeware, or small appliances (as well as any "Self-Cleaning functions on your regular stove/oven) that contain any coatings inside or outside of them that contain any of the dozens of Perflourinated-Compounds WILL kill your Cockatiel instantly...No joke.

So you need to talk to your girlfriend about this and try to explain how very serious this is, and how your bird cannot be inside the house anywhere if she keeps cooking with that "multi-cooker" or anything else that isn't safe...Usually the main culprits in most homes are:

#1). Pots and Pans with a non-stick coating that contain Perfluorinated-Compounds or a Teflon brand-name non-stick coating ([B]You need to use ONLY Ceramic non-stick, Cast-Iron, Stainless-Steel, or real Copper Pots and Pans)

#2) Small Kitchen Appliances: Most-all of the smaller kitchen appliances are not at all safe to use in a home with a bird, unfortunately. You always have to call the manufacturer of any small-appliance you are looking to buy, give them the model name and model# and confirm with them that the appliance is safe or not safe BEFORE you buy it...The most common killer small-appliances include Deep-Fryers, Air-Fryers, Crockpots, Convection-Ovens, Toaster-Ovens, Toasters, electric Griddles, Griddles that you set on top of the stove and are no electric, ALL George-Foreman Grills (have killed many, many birds), Microwaves, Coffee-makers, etc.

#3) The Self-Cleaning function on regular stoves/ovens: You just simply cannot run the Self-Cleaning function on your stove/oven. Period. You have to just scrub the inside of your oven by hand.

$4). Other Small-Appliances in the Home: Most people don't think about any appliances being lethal to their birds unless they're in the kitchen, but that's totally untrue, and many small-appliances have killed birds in homes...The most common household-appliances that kill birds are any types of Space-Heaters, any types of Air-Purifiers, Diffusers, HAIR BLOW-DRYERS (this is a big one that people don't usually thin about at all)...

****A little story for you and your girlfriend so you understand just how serious this issue is, and how dangerous it is to use any of these things with your bird anywhere inside of the house...I know of a married couple in their 50's who had been parrot-breeders for over 20 years, with the main species that they bred and hand-raised/hand-fed being Congo African Greys, different Macaw species, and Cockatiels...They also had several pet parrots that they had brought home as just-weaned babies and who were now in their 30's, including a 32 year-old Greenwing Macaw...They also had a huge indoor-aviary where their breeding Cockatiels lived...One Sunday morning they were in their kitchen getting breakfast for themselves and all the birds, and they had 4 Brooders sitting on their kitchen counter, each one holding a baby Congo African Grey that they were hand-feeding and that were only weeks old...Suddenly one of their pet Cockatiels who was flying downstairs to them for breakfast literally dropped out of the air and hit the floor...dead. They were horrified and very upset, but then all of their breeding-Cockatiels inside of the indoor-aviary in the next room started screaming and crying, so they ran into the other room and suddenly all of their Cocatiels started dropping over dead...They had no idea what was going on, they knew all about Teflon and Perfluorinated-Compounds, and had long ago thrown away any harful cookware and appliances and replaced them...Suddenly they heard their 32 year-old Macaw, WHO WAS DOWNSTAIRS IN THEIR FINISHED BASEMENT BEHIND A CLOSED, LATCHED DOOR, crying and screaming...The husband ran downstairs and carried back upstairs a dead Macaw, and informed his wife that their Cockatoo was also dead in the basement...They started running the baby CAG's in the Brooders outside, and then running any remaining, live birds outside as quickly as they could...In the end they lost over 40 parrots total (I believe it was a total of 43), including all 12 of their breeding Cockatiels, all 4 of the baby CAG's, their 32 year-old Macaw, and a 20+ year-old Cockatoo..And ALL of their birds that died were in different rooms or on different floors than the cause except for the 4 baby CAG's in the brooders...

They quickly figured out what the cause was...They had purchased a very small space-heater the week before, and that Sunday morning the husband had finally plugged it in to use it for the first time, he had plugged it in in their living room, which was connected to their kitchen...They had never thought about any other small appliances like this being harmful, only the kitchen appliances and cookware...The Space-Heater contained a coating inside of it that prevented the internal wiring from heating-up, and that coating contained PFOA, PTFE, and other Perfluorinated-Compounds...And they lost most-all of their Flock, with the only surviving birds being their Macaw breeders, who were located in a large aviary that was actually not inside of the house, but on a screened-in porch attached to the house but outside and behind their back-door. They were the only birds that weren't killed, including the ones that were down in the basement and in back-bedrooms behind closed-doors...

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I'm chemical engineer.I know how dangerous is for him that why we removed everything that has been coated with it.Thats why I rushed so fast and he got scared.About the device ..it's completely sealed and that point far far from the cage at the end of the other room on very well ventilated space.I just paniced a lot,because it's my first cockatiel and im not used to avians.I had various of pets before him ,but never an actual parrot.I love those animals the most.She knows also I've explained all of the things I've learned for those birds.Sadly she had no idea since it was brand new.Anyway as I said it wasn't even close to him my reactions were a bit over the roof and i scared him very very much.Now he is hissing me and squacking all day.I'm trying to reach him step by step from the begining ,but no use...

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Re: Please help

Just take you time to get to know each other.
A month is a very short time to build a friendship on.
I think it is great your bird already comes to you and takes treats from your hands!



I am not fluent in the nuances of cockatielbehaviour/ communications, but a lot of members are.. they will find this!


(and there soooo many do's and dont's to parrotkeeping...no worries you will catch up soon enough!)
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Re: Please help

Welcome! Glad you recognized the dangers of Teflon, and sorry you scared him. Just take your time, as others have said, and let him figure out that you are not ‘scary’. This thread might have some helpful ideas about building a relationship with him....just move at his pace . Tips for Bonding and Building Trust
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Thank you!!!Well he is charming little bird. I managed befriend him on the third day home despite that he is more than a year old male bird rised at a zoostore.I picked him up,because he was frighten and shy -let me to believe he was mistreated and abused from the other cockatiel. Music,food and imitating his songs helped me a lot. But now I just can't get to him.It's like ... I feel bad for him screaming and so i go near and he gets more agitated,BUT EVEN SO he still eats from food i give to him and sit on my shoulder....I'm really confused
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Re: Please help

If your cockatiel is eating food you offer him by hand and sits on your shoulder that’s great! Every bird is different, yours may just be afraid of hands so you may need to be content with this level of interaction for the time being. I once had a female cockatiel who wanted nothing to do with me for years, then suddenly one day it was like a switch flicked on in her brain and virtually overnight she became the sweetest cuddliest bird imaginable. But it did literally take about 2 or 3 years for this to happen and it was a case of my just being happy for her to wait until she made up her own mind, with no guarantee that she ever would! Be patient and love your little birdie whichever way he decides to go
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Thanks people!I noticed that he is making some strange calls at around 10 am every day. Few people i talked to said that their birds have the sam
e behaviour for the same period of time.Could that be hormonal?I saw him today flying very stressed hitting the cage and walls in the room. Tried to copy his songs and he listened singing back.But from time to time banging the cage with beak.Im starting to believe that he is thinking of me as a mating partner ,because when im not around my gf told me he acts ok and calm.Could that be?

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