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Old 10-24-2019, 04:02 PM
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Hello everyone! Hope all is well. I am truly looking for help since no vet has been able to help me properly so far and it's making me panic soooo much. A few months ago, my cockateil had something itching him to the extent of bleeding himself. I sprayed a medicine on him and gave him a good powdered antibiotic and he was doing well after. A few months later, he began fluffing up, gradually he had the crown feathers gone. Then gradually his wings dropped and his poop had food seeds in it. And now his poop is very tiny with a lot of surrounding liquid. What the vets told me is that it's just an intestinal infection and should go away with an antibiotic for five days and that I should put him a plate of sand for him to cleanse his intestines like the wild ones do. And yet there is no improvement. From my realization, where I am most vets are only or mainly familiar with cats and dogs here. I can't find anyone that would completely understand his situation. He keeps losing weight....his diet is mainly seed based and I sometimes add some honey or little lemon juice in his water since he doesn't accept any fruits or vegetables. I have read alot and continue reading but it all just makes me worry more. And obviously where I am no one is really familiar of what needs to be done.
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Old 10-24-2019, 08:23 PM
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Re: Cockatiel health help

Where in the wide world are you located? That will help people to give you the best advice doe your circumstances, and maybe even help you to find a more qualified vet near you.

I don’t have any help for you myself, but my response should bump your post up so people will see it, and if you tell us where you are that will help.

You are right to be very concerned about your bird. Those symptoms indicate that he’s quite ill.


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Re: Cockatiel health help

I agree with Inger - your birdie sounds like he could be quite ill and really needs a vet who understands birds. We’ll be happy to help try to locate an avian or exotics vet if you can narrow down your location a bit (what country are you in?).
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Old 10-24-2019, 09:31 PM
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Re: Cockatiel health help

I'm sorry you live somewhere that good avain help is hard to find. I'm very sorry that the bird you care for is so ill.
It's late here, I will try and think of things to help tomorrow....
One thing, pictures would help...
Something you can do that won't hurt anything and might help with poop, is to feed a small amount of live culture yogurt. Just offer on your fingers or a spoon, or in a clean dish. Try and get him to taste it , my birds eat it. But remove after a few minutes if he doesn't. This is a way to get probiotics into the bird. That helps reset the digestive system.
Also do not apply powder or spray to your bird. It can be very toxic to them.
Most birds can be tempted to nibble on romaine lettuce, just hang a whole leaf in the cage, and keep trying to offer veggies. I know your bird is sick, but he could still maybe be tempted by this good food.
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Re: Cockatiel health help

I am not sure exactly of the dilution rate, but apple cider vinegar is very good in a case like this mixed in the water, search it up online for the details
Baby spinach leaves are great as well as Lebanese cucumber, as they are all soft and moist
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Old 10-25-2019, 06:13 PM
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Re: Cockatiel health help

Ok I've been thinking of you! Hows your baby today?
Birds that are on a seed only diet are often low in vitamin D and vitamin A. Both of those vitamins help support the immune system. And I'm going to give you some ideas to help with that.

I mentioned before that a bird with stool problem can be supporting ( not curing) with offer fresh live culture yogurt. This provide the bird with probiotics that go balance the flora of the gut. I offer mine that healthy this at least once a month. But for your sick bird I would offer every day for a week, then twice a week until well.

There is no way for me to know what is making your bird sick. But the good thing about life, is it wants to fight to stay alive. So doing good supportive care, if you can't get vet care , is important.

Vitamin D your bird can get by being outside, if it is warm were you are. And if you think your bird is healthy enough, and won't be stressed to much by spending a short time outside in a secure cage. You must stay right with your bird, light shade is best, don't stick your bird in full sunshine. 15 miniuts a day is good to start.

Also you can sprout seeds, most birds love them! It changes the seed and activities some good nutrition. You can sprout pumpkin seeds, lentils, quinoa, millit, sunflower, safflower oat groats and many others. We have a forum talking about this. Hopefully a good member can add a link or weigh in here...

To get some good vitamin A , you can make bird bread. You want to add some cooked and puree pumpkin, add some diced red, yellow or orange bell peppers, hot red chilli peppers, those all have good amount of vitamin A. You can also add some of the millit , and fresh corn to the bread to be more tempting. Use a muffin, cornbread, or bread recipe. We have bread recipe under the diet thread too. Many birds are willing to nibble this, even seed eaters.

I don't know what kind of seeds your bird eats? But we can try mixing in some healthy seeds to the mix. Raw pumpkin or squash seeds, or human grade dried with no added salt pumpkin seeds. Quinoa, pistachio, flax, there are others but I can t this m of them. Also if you cut up a fresh cucumber and fish out those seeds to offer, any seeds from fresh bell pepper, or hot pepper many birds love these, and cut up the fresh peppers and offer those to. Any fresh squash like zucchini, yellow squash have seeds that might temp your bird. Mine love to eat zucchini cubed to.

You can offer scrambled eggs cooked so they are a little dry and crumble, or a boiled egg you duce up. Eggs have some good nutrition.

Also birds that are sick do better if kept a little warmer. If you can keep your home warmer, keep your bird out of drafts, and not under an air vent. Also you can cover one corner of the cage with a sheet, and then place a lamp with a high watage bulb bear that corner. Lamp can add some heat. But make sure bright light isn't disturbing your bird.

Lastly you might find help a d support from farms or people product birds like chickens for human food. They often have access to antibiotics or vets that treat the farm birds. I don't know if your bird needs antibiotics, there is no way for me to know this...your bird could have a virus or fungal or yeast infection. In that case antibiotics would make your bird worse.......
But a more common type of infection in birds is a bacteria called Chlamydia psittaci. This bacteria, ( a VERY BIG If, ) can be treated by antibiotics called doxycycline. There is doxycycline that is available without a veterinarian prescription, and us made to add to the birds water. It is often used on poultry farms. Or you might be able to order it online. You hav to follow the directions that come with it very carefully andv keep the water very clean. It's best to add to filtered purified water, as it can react to impurities.

Also pictures might go offer i sights...
All of the above helps provide supporting care, a d helps your bird try to fight this off. Real avain vet care is the best. Good luck!!!!
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Re: Cockatiel health help

Also stop adding honey to your birds food! Honey. Honey is a natural sweetener and can be healthy for humans, but it is not good for birds. Even the best quality, organic honey can harbor bacteria and grow mold that can be fatal to birds. And all that extra sugar can leed to yeast overgrowth in the guts.
And stop adding lemon juice as well! Citric acid found in citrus fruits has been linked to a liver disease called iron storage disease. The citric acid binfs iron in birds building up to toxic levels in the liver.
Also like I said before no more sprays or powders to your bird. The chemical can be very toxic to birds, I don't care if they sell it for birds don't use it. It sounds like your bird got very sick after this spray and antibiotics powder. Improper use of and wrong antibiotics can kill all the good bacteria in your birds body, allowing things like yeast to overgrow and take over, they can even leave the gut and invade surrounding tissue. That's why the yogurt will help if your bird will eat just a little, don't force it to tho. Just offer it.

Lastly it's a good idea especially with a sick bird to do an extra big clean of the cage, food and water dishes. I use newspaper on the bottom of the cage, change every day. Also clean the tray. You can use a tablespoon of white vinegar in a bowl of cold water ( do not use hot water or the vinegar will off gass fumes that are bad for your bird) while down every cage bar a d every inch of the cage. Wipe off perches. You can go back a d use a damp water only cloth to remove the vinegar residue. You don't want to have a vinegar smell when you are done. Try to do everyday or every other day while your bird is sick so it won't reinfect its self. You should still clean good a d water dishes a d change the paper every day all the time.
And if you think your drinking water isn't good quality, then use filtered or bottles water for your bird. Sometimes even good water can have traces of lead, or copper from old pipes, or increase coliform ( bacteria) count in it.
Ok these are all the things I can think of to help your bird. O want you to know we all care about your bird. Sometimes a topic or thread doesn't get a lot of responses just because some people aren't sure they have any advice that might help, or haven't encountered that problems before. Many people read a thread but may not say anything.
Please keep posting, updating us and asking questions.
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Re: Cockatiel health help

Just bumpier your thread. And hoping things are better.
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