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Old 12-29-2016, 11:54 PM
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I remember reading somewhere (probably on this forum, for that matter!) that if you adopt a cockatoo, being bitten isn't just a possibility; it's a certainty. And you have to be okay with that if you're going to be a parront.

Today I spent a couple hours at my friend's apartment (the friend who, as I mentioned in my intro post, is dad to a sulphur crested cockatoo). This 'too was, as usual, on my arms or in my lap for almost the entire time I was there. He's nipped me many times before, but not the way he did today. (Maybe he was mad I hadn't been able to visit him in a while?).

Whatever the reason, he grabbed my ring finger in his beak and clamped down, HARD.

I know you're not really supposed to react because that's what the bird wants and they'll bite harder and more often, so I said "NO" once, loudly, and when he let go and calmed down, reminded him in a soft voice that he needs to be gentle, and petted him again.

So my finger is bruised and stinging, less than an hour later. I washed the finger with soap and water and put Polysporin on it, just in case.

All I can think is, oh my God, this hurts, but I really don't care, because I just love cockatoos (and this bird in particular) SO MUCH.

I guess that's how you know 'toos are for you, and you're for 'toos.

How did you know for sure that you're right for cockatoos and they're right for you? And is there a better way to react to hard bites?
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Old 12-30-2016, 04:21 AM
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Re: Are you SURE you want a 'too?

It depends what Paco has in mind re what was behind the bite. If it is 'you are not scratching my head enough' then No it's not OK. Too's do not forget things, so it could have been 'you haven't been here to see me enough and I've missed you'. It can be used as a communication tool, usually displeasure, it just needs training to show them how much is necessary with bite pressure training. Return to cage for a time out is enough to show you are not happy with that form of communication. My RB2 occasionally flies at the hair on the back of my head if very upset about something, he doesn't hurt me and we both know he has done it because in a second he tells me 'go bubbyes' (cage) so he knows its naughty but really needs to express something. I just have to work out what the heck it was all about.

Bite pressure training?

You could as a precursor to resuming the head scratching relationship go through a few minutes of re-introduction. Hey Paco, how are you, are we good? Sorry I haven't been able to see you lately etc etc. Use plenty of soft eye contact and see what his reaction is. They are cleverer than you think and are not pleased when a favoured one appears to have gone AWOL!
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Old 12-30-2016, 04:35 AM
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Re: Are you SURE you want a 'too?

Yup we fostered a Goffin that would clamp down on one of my fingers and spin, and do flips. They have those dang 3 pronged beaks which makes the bites even worse
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Old 12-30-2016, 08:54 AM
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Re: Are you SURE you want a 'too?

Getting Bitten is a likelihood with any Parrot! Yes, there are very well socialized Hook Bills that the event would be highly rare, but pushed by a stupid Human, at some point, they will make a very clear point.

Taking the Bite /don't react! I have always had a problem with this recommendation. Yes, I have seen it in a number of writings and know that it has a following! Yes, there are some Parrots that are reaction junkie, but I have always believed in the Very Clear, NO! And, tied to a clear Time-Out!

Hook Bills, and the double cutting line lower Bill. I have seen this on a fairly wide cross-section of Parrots. Specific to Amazons, I have had Amazons that had a very well formed double cutting line (two cut points) and others that had a flat cut line. So, I'm not sure if this is something they can create or if it is natural.

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Re: Are you SURE you want a 'too?

Quote: Originally Posted by OMG View Post
I remember reading somewhere (probably on this forum, for that matter!) that if you adopt a cockatoo, being bitten isn't just a possibility; it's a certainty. And you have to be okay with that if you're going to be a parront.

Today I spent a couple hours at my friend's apartment (the friend who, as I mentioned in my intro post, is dad to a sulphur crested cockatoo). This 'too was, as usual, on my arms or in my lap for almost the entire time I was there. He's nipped me many times before, but not the way he did today. (Maybe he was mad I hadn't been able to visit him in a while?).

Whatever the reason, he grabbed my ring finger in his beak and clamped down, HARD.

I know you're not really supposed to react because that's what the bird wants and they'll bite harder and more often, so I said "NO" once, loudly, and when he let go and calmed down, reminded him in a soft voice that he needs to be gentle, and petted him again.

So my finger is bruised and stinging, less than an hour later. I washed the finger with soap and water and put Polysporin on it, just in case.

All I can think is, oh my God, this hurts, but I really don't care, because I just love cockatoos (and this bird in particular) SO MUCH.

I guess that's how you know 'toos are for you, and you're for 'toos.

How did you know for sure that you're right for cockatoos and they're right for you? And is there a better way to react to hard bites?
Everyone's journey is different and all of them have the potential to be amazing. I didn't know I was "right" for cockatoos. My oldest son met and fell in love with my U2. He couldn't adopt her in good conscience due to a super busy schedule and Poppy's behavioural issues. I was coerced into adopting Poppy because my family insisted she needed me. Our Oprah moment occurred weeks later when she leaped off the balcony of her cage into my arms and snuggled under my chin.

Hard bites aren't funny, cockatoos have a three pronged beak and in the right mood, they can cause serious damage. Toos have a wide range of emotions and mercurial attitudes, one second they will wave to to be picked up for a hug, the next, they are glaring at you with obvious malicious intent. I've found its best not to buy into thier drama. If Poppy gets nippy, I immediately place her on her stand with a stern, "No", until she gains control of herself. Most birds catch on pretty quick when time outs are involved. Once you get to know a Too, you will be able to easily read body language and know when they are bluffing or giving you a warning.
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Re: Are you SURE you want a 'too?

I trained my bird to press his beak against me and not bote when he is upset. I resect it every time he does that, so we have a pretty good communication set up that involves no bites.
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Re: Are you SURE you want a 'too?

My LSC2, Daisy, nipped my wife on the back of her neck yesterday, only me & my son can approach her
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Re: Are you SURE you want a 'too?

I've had an umbrella for 25 years and have only been bitten twice. Once was when I had him with me and he got scared the other time he was on my shoulder, I had just gotten home n took him out and put him on my shoulder and before I took my 2nd step he bite the back of my neck. Have no idea why, it wasn't like I stumbled or that he was loosing his balance, so not sure why and the face that I couldn't see what was going on didn't help trying to figure it out.
But 25 years is a long time and only 2 mishaps... I'll certainly take that in return for all the love n happiness we've shared!! No brainer... Lol.

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Re: Are you SURE you want a 'too?

Toos stole my heart so long ago it is hard to remember life without them.

Most of mine have been hand-fed and imprinted by humans, but they can still bite. Seems two types of chomps: the minor nip aimed at discipline, the other a desire to break the skin and make you bleed! Ironically my tame babies are more likely to get angry with me, while the wild-caught parents have never broken skin. Strange!!

As others have said, they are very beaky critters, so one must accept the occasional bite.
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