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Old 07-28-2017, 06:32 AM
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Hello all!

I’m here because after much research and serious consideration I’ve decided to get a goffin cockatoo.

I will not actually get him for another 3 months, so I have plenty of time to research and prepare myself, and that’s why I’m here.

I am a 23yo college student studying zoology with a focus in ornithology (birds). School is extremely close to my home and I am only gone for max 7 hours a day (school being 5 hours max some days and I coach for 2 hours in the evening) 4 days a week. Coaching ends for the year 2 months after the bird comes home and I don't have class on mondays, so realistically I will only be gone about 3-5 hours a day 4 days a week. I plan on having the ‘too out with me whenever I’m home and whenever I’m studying or when I’m out taking my pup for a walk. I am currently at home with my parents and will be through my masters most likely.

I wanted your opinions on my current set up. I’ve read all about the commitment and how people end up giving them away before they turn three and such. But I am really enamored by them and love the close bond they share. I also have a doberman who is a huge velcro dog and I just love that about some animals, how close they can get to you on such a different level.

ETA: This will also not be my first bird, I grew up with some. I also volunteered at a bird store when I was younger socializing the birds. So I'm used to the loud screaming of toos.

So that’s my spiel, do your worst

Thanks!!

(I will also be posting this on the mytoos forum, just want as much advice as possible, I hope that's not an issue)

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Old 07-28-2017, 07:57 AM
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Old 07-28-2017, 08:40 AM
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Re: Prospective 'Too owner

hello hello and hello!

Well you certainly seem set on a Too. Really I only have 2 worries.

1. Being more immediate you have a doberman, now there are some households that have birds and dogs but just remember your doberman is wired in his DNA to hunt for food and a Too being a prey species classifies as food very easily and you can never tell if/when they will make a charge at the bird, now the bird will need to be kept in the highest trafficked area of the home which naturally the dog will be in a lot so it would be extremely difficult to give the bird their time out. They can't live in your bedroom all day (I assume you're still at home with parents)

2. What happens when you move out? Work is hard to find and well paying work even harder to find and for at least a couple years you'll be struggling financially. You won't be able to afford a house and most apartments aren't pet friendly. You also have to think of your neighbors, as much as you're okay with the screams they won't be otherwise they would probably have their own bird. A series of complaints could very quickly send you to the streets. you say you're okay with the screams from working at a pet store but did it speciically have the toos? Loud doesn't describe it, the scream of one of the species is the same as a 747 at take off! No human is comfortable with that unless they're deaf.

I think as much as you may be the right person and you've tried to research and think as much about the bird you haven't factored for yourself in that equation. It's very good feeling you're prepared but a large part of getting a bird is being able to step back and say "now's not the right time" if you leave it for 2, 3 years or even 10 if you're the right person then you will still be the right person.

As much as you may not want to hear it I don't think now is the right time for a Too

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Re: Prospective 'Too owner

Hi welcome.

So really the wheels are set in motion as you say, "I will not actually get him for another 3 months". Sounds a done deal to me? You have not actually specified whether the Goffins is a baby or older, be nice to know.

Please let us know how you get on with the post on mytoos, be interesting.

Probably would have been better to come and ask before the deal was done IMO.

You sound an ideal future parront but not sure your life is settled enough yet and have a reservation concerning your dog. It can work, it does work and it can all go horribly wrong. Twenty three and in education, still a fair few things could happen and a parrot will definitely cramp your style with dating, it may not like your choice of partner, or may prefer them to you?
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Old 07-28-2017, 09:53 AM
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Hey guys! Thanks for the help and concerns.

My Doberman is a service dog. He doesn't have a prey drive. No interest in squirrels or bunnies or any animals I bring around him. I've had rats playing around him and he couldn't care less. Obviously I would slowly introduce them to each other and NEVER leave them together alone. As for future living and such, I will not be moving out for at least another 4-5 years and I have thought much past that. I will plan my future living around the where the bird can be and I have work connections with the zoo already for the future. It's not a done deal yet, I can reserve the baby next month. That's why I'm here now. After all the research and before putting down money this seemed like the appropriate in between step. I want a pet that lives long and grows with me. I like that consistency. I plan on having a set routine every day in which he is out for at least 5 hours on a busy day and 8-10 on other days.
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Old 07-28-2017, 09:55 AM
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And yes the pet store had many toos
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Old 07-28-2017, 10:27 AM
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Hey guys! Thanks for the help and concerns.

My Doberman is a service dog. He doesn't have a prey drive. No interest in squirrels or bunnies or any animals I bring around him. I've had rats playing around him and he couldn't care less. Obviously I would slowly introduce them to each other and NEVER leave them together alone. As for future living and such, I will not be moving out for at least another 4-5 years and I have thought much past that. I will plan my future living around the where the bird can be and I have work connections with the zoo already for the future. It's not a done deal yet, I can reserve the baby next month. That's why I'm here now. After all the research and before putting down money this seemed like the appropriate in between step. I want a pet that lives long and grows with me. I like that consistency. I plan on having a set routine every day in which he is out for at least 5 hours on a busy day and 8-10 on other days.
You seem to have everything in order, main thing is you already know what to expect from a cockatoo. Just remember you're going to engage a relationship that is in any probability be as long as you live, if you really are ready for that then go for it! If you aren't ready for that and you think something like "i can atleast keep him for those 4-5 years i live here" then please dont do it, there is already too much birds that needs a new home.
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Re: Prospective 'Too owner

okay you do seem to have things planned out. I will say the dog does still have that in them. It's a survival instinct, he's obviously trained to a very high degree so it's a lot less of a worry and of course you plan to make sure you supervise them which is good to know (what kind of service if you don't mind me asking? I'm just intrigued). The slow introduction is going to be tricky as once again your bird should be in the room with most people and the dog will naturally go there but that's not to say all dogs have murdered birds, some are good friends.

When you say you've got contacts with the zoo do you mean for employment? (jealous) or as a refuge for the bird if it has to go? If the latter a zoo isn't the right place, a tame bird raised with humans requires human interaction so would have to go to a specific rescue for tamed birds. If the first then I'm big jealous, I'd love to work in a zoo as opposed to my boring ass job. Just be aware zoo employees often work long hours with the animals in the zoo being as close to their pets as can be.

I also assume you've got the money for the initial spend? Cage, toys, perches, ETC ETC you know the whole deal. If not 2 months is not long to prepare, do-able yes but to pull a couple thousand out of a hat is a trick I would love to be able to do, if you can do that send a little my way? haha

Ooh I assume you've gone to visit the breeder and checked things out? I wouldn't have a single penny leave before you can check the environment they're raised in and the breeder is reputable. The trick I found was to act dumb and ask questions like "they all need to be clipped right?" If the breeder says yes they must or they only give them seed or the place isn't well kept or if you're not allowed to visit without paying a deposit, politely walk away. As "desirable" as they are and with the money involved there's some very bad people and a lot of scammers about. I'm sure you've checked the breeder out but just in case. I nearly got scammed once by a breeder, it took the deposit price to wake me up. Asking 300 deposit before I could even see an Eclectus that cost 700. I now longer pay a penny until I see the bird and am happy to buy them, some breeders don't like it but tough.

honestly you do sound like the right kind of person for a Too, you seem to have a good long term plan (better than me, I don't know what I'm doing next week let alone 5 years from now!) but just remember the rest of your life will be about putting them first and of course you can always come here for asistance with them, everyone here loves to help and even after a good grilling on it you are still determined. My final piece really is try not to think about it over the next week or so until you're close to the deadline, then you have a fresh mind over your decision

oh and as much as some girls hate birds a cockatoo on your shoulder will attract the correct kind for you! Also an excellent conversation starter haha. They just gotta pass the birdy test
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Old 07-28-2017, 11:11 AM
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I'd recommend waiting, too. You do sound like a nice future home for a bird, but with your life at the stage it is at right now, you can not possibly know what the next 10 years or so will bring you, plan or no plan. The bird will live much longer than 10 years, but the next 10 years of your life are likely to be filled with changes, any one of which causes birds to get dumped routinely. Waiting until you own a home and see what your family life is looking like (partner? kids?), see what kind of hours you keep at your job, would put you in a much better position to take on what is essentially a commitment for the rest of your life.

I've fostered a lot of birds and while each is different, even within a species, I have to say that the loudest most incessant foster I've had was a Goffins. Drove me batty!!! He wasn't a "problem screamer", just vocal with a pitch that would pierce your ear drums. And I have larger 'toos of my own! There is no possible way that that little dude could have lived in an apartment or town house. The neighbors would have complained and they would have been right to!

I think volunteering at a parrot rescue while you are still in school would be a fantastic thing for you - you would meet so many different types of birds, and different personalities and really get a broad hands-on education to go with your school education.

Best of luck with your decision.
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The noise factor is the biggest thing to consider, and you say you're familiar with it. Living with it is a bit different, so consider that, too. How do your parents feel about living with that noise? And would they be willing to keep the bird with them if your eventual career takes you to a place where you have to rent an apartment, where you couldn't have the bird with you? I have an umbrella 'too and he's the only one I know, but the screaming is unreal. He screams sometimes for no apparent reason. Then he has days when he hardly makes a noise. However, the neighbors -- and we live in a house on a rural road, where the houses aren't smack up close -- can hear him OVER their TV, with the house closed up. They're nice, and they don't complain, but we apologize a lot anyway.
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