Macaw person considering a cockatoo

chad246emr

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Hello all,

I was recently approached by someone who had come into contact with me through mutual friends, and needs to rehome their late fathers umbrella cockatoo.

I’ve been around birds my entire life from hormonal Amazons to large macaws but never actually owned a cockatoo. I’ve held them and played with them and I’m aware of their up-front personalities and quirks, but I’ve never owned one. Currently, I own a severe macaw which is just a little bit smaller than a U2 but I’m not unaware of how different their dispositions are. I also have several smaller birds. Severe macaws, though notorious among macaw owners as the most difficult macaw to keep, are much more independent than your typical U2, and not as emotionally needy. I can leave my severe on a play stand for hours, and though he loves cuddling, he’s content with just chatting with me across the room. He can be awfully stubborn, and I’m not at all intimidated by bites from birds of any size over the years. I’m also pretty used to dealing with avian temper tantrums because of him. I’m also used to the volume he gives off, and I know cockatoos bring a lot of that as well.

The woman reached out to me and I talked to her about the bird. I’m waiting for pictures tomorrow morning, as she had already put the bird to bed tonight, but I’m considering adopting her. She said she has started plucking and wants to put her in a home that is more used to birds and what their needs are. She said she doesn’t scream consistently to where it would be an issue, though that threshold varies from person to person. She said she has bitten her son, but never bitten her. She also told me she’s seen a vet recently and was given a clean bill of health. She is 25 years old. She wasn’t asking an adoption fee, she just wants the bird to go to a good home.

My goal in writing this post is to pick your brains for main differences I can expect to notice, should I decide to adopt her, between macaw behavior and cockatoo behavior, and anything else I might not have mentioned in this post that I should be made aware of in making this decision. I’m a huge macaw guy, and very used to their behavior having handled them more than any other type of large parrot, so I want to make sure I’m making the right decision here. There is no adoption fee so it’d be easy for me to run out and pick her up as soon as possible, but I want to avoid an impulsive decision here for the dozens of reasons we all know that would be a terrible idea.

I look forward to hearing your thoughts and appreciate your time! :)
 

Scott

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Macaws and Cockatoos, particularly U2s are vastly different. An imperfect analogy: "Men are from Mars, Women are from Venus." Without dredging up sexist stereotypes, you can guess how to assign species to planet!!

My experience with GW and B&G macaws is their beaks are more formidable appearing than their bites, while cockatoos can chomp with emotion and pressure. Toos are a far more tactile bird than most others and often demand prodigious amounts of time. The reward can be an incredibly close and cuddly bond over time.

Caveat: I've lived with M2s, Citrons, and a large number of Goffins. My U2 experience is limited to stories and anecdotes from this forum.

I'd recommend reading as much about U2s as possible, beginning with this "sticky" atop our Cockatoo forum: http://www.parrotforums.com/cockatoos/17694-owning-cockatoo.html

Another strategy is to visit with this U2 and see how she reacts to you. The time-honored notion of letting the bird "choose you" has particular meaning with toos.

Lastly, be advised the white toos produce plenty of dander that may irritate you and/or the macaws, depending on proximity and ventilation. Some folks purchase quality air purifiers.

Good luck, let us know your decision!!
 

SailBoat

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I'm the local Amazon Snob, so not tons of Too background compared to Amazons.

As with Scott, I'm a big believer in letting the Parrot 'choose you' whenever possible. It goes a long way to developing a relationship. As also stated, spend as much time as possible.

Since, the Too has been to a Vet recently. Ask for the release (transfer) of its past history (for Vet use only) to you should you elect to have this Too become part of your life.

You indicated that the Too had recently started plucking. Since there is a medical base that can drive some forms of plucking, getting the Too back into the Vet very soon will be important.

The Too Folks should be allow shortly! :D
 

bill_e

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So, a little off topic. My experience with dogs is that a second dog us usually 4 times the work of having only one, that is the increase in responsibility/workload is not linear.

Is it the same for birds? Is there a point you can get to where one more doesn't really matter?
 

ToMang07

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This is everything you need to know about the differences between the 2...

[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=odzXm2KT7ew"]Bella umbrella cockatoo is freaking out - YouTube[/ame]
 

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Oh my gosh, that is just too funny! And then that little Amazon just sings his little song haha.

I've read the entire stick on owning a cockatoo, and so far all of the videos, anecdotes, and information I've encountered seems pretty on-point with what I was expecting.

I've been looking for another large bird for a while, so when this woman reached out to me it was just about perfect timing. I was originally looking for another large macaw, but the good parts of a cockatoo are making me consider them. The bad parts aren't dissuading me, but I'm just trying to make sure I fully grasp what I'm in for.

Before I adopted Pickle (my Severe Macaw) everyone was telling me so many horror stories about how they're viscous green balls of feathers with no reason, attack people from across the room, and that the only thing they love to chew on more than your door frames is your soul... but none of that is the case with Pickle. He's very stubborn and takes a LOT of patience, but none of his quirks bother me anywhere near as much as everyone said they probably would. That being said, I know cockatoos are known to be needy and difficult birds with good reason, and for that matter I'm sure Severe Macaws are as well.

At this point I'm just waiting to meet her. Iknow that another macaw is the more logical choice because I know them so well, but that doesn't mean a cockatoo isn't something I can handle or would enjoy. I'm still anticipating images from her current owner this morning, and once I receive those I'll schedule a time to go visit this afternoon. She only lives about two miles from me which is very convenient!

Thank you all for the information and I'll keep you posted. :)
 
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Scott

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Kudos for approaching this adoption with eyes wide open! Given your experience and intuition, I suspect you'll be closer to an answer after meeting and spending time with her.

While I love and appreciate all species, the Toos are my favorites, particularly the G2s. The personality of the person has some bearing on the type of bird most closely associated!
 

ToMang07

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Just do lots of reading. Expect nothing, but be aware. Every bird has their own personality, and there are always a few that go against the norm.
 

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ToMango07,

That was hilarious! Thanks for the laugh. That video was worth a thousand words:) LOL

Chad,

Good luck with the visit. I hope everything goes well.
 
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I had a goffin cockatoo growing up, but currently have a GW macaw, umbrella cockatoo, and goffin cockatoo.

I am bitten once in a while by macaw. I've had Flower, a rescue U2 for a little over two months now. I have not been bitten by her, but am more wary when offering my hand, for the very reason Scott stated. Macaws tend to be better at getting their points across using their beaks gently (relative term) than cockatoos. They are also more predictable.

My macaw is a little more even-keel. He gets excited at times, but Flower can go from 0-100 VERY fast.

As the cockatoo you've mentioned, Flower came to me with a bit of a plucking history, although was far from bald. I think cockatoos are the most emotional parrots and are very prone to anxiety.

Before pulling the trigger on getting Flower, I read as many horror stories as I could regarding umbrella cockatoos. I was still a little nervous bringing one in, despite having been around several in the past. You are clearly already a bird person. Do your homework, prepare for the worst and hope for the best! You'll probably find yourself somewhere in the middle of those extremes!
 
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chad246emr

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I received the images and I'm set to meet her later this afternoon. She looks like she's been a plucker for a while which, ironically, makes me worry less about medical issues since she saw a vet in August and it looks like she's plucked for longer than that.

Her owner told me she's never seen anyone other than immediate family members try to hold her, so I'm anticipating her not liking me too much. I'm going to be more focused on how she interacts with the people she DOES know, and what her mannerisms/manners are like. I'm excited and nervous! I'm nervous about being disappointed if I feel she would be too much to handle after meeting her, but I also refuse to take her in if I'm not as close to 100 percent positive as possible that I'll give her a great home.

Here are the pics she sent me:

https://ibb.co/e4wSgb
https://ibb.co/nurtMb
https://ibb.co/h2FW7G
 

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I added to U2s to our Amazon. They are a handful. They are unpredictable at times and they scream as if they are trying to resurrect the dead. I get confused as to the prejudices of the birds: Boozie hates ball caps, Bonnie hates the color red, and Clyde hates my glasses. Sometimes I forget which bird will fly into a rage for which of these offenses, but I am quickly reminded.

That said, there is a joyful chaotic cacophony. Even among the screams, they bring me peace and joy.
 
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I visited and met Sunshine. (The birds name) She was a doll!

Friendly as can be even though she didn’t know me, stepped right up, danced with me, kept talking to me, and cuddled into the crease of my arm and let me pet her head. The woman says that she only contact calls for you, which is something I expect from any bird. She said it’s rare that she ever has a screaming fit.

She honestly seems like a perfect match but I told her I still wanted some time to mull it over so I wasn’t swept up in the moment.

But after meeting her, I can’t help but feel that she’d be a good match.

Help! Someone bring me back down to earth and rationality haha
 
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I visited and met Sunshine. (The birds name) She was a doll!

Friendly as can be even though she didn’t know me, stepped right up, danced with me, kept talking to me, and cuddled into the crease of my arm and let me pet her head. The woman says that she only contact calls for you, which is something I expect from any bird. She said it’s rare that she ever has a screaming fit.

She honestly seems like a perfect match but I told her I still wanted some time to mull it over so I wasn’t swept up in the moment.

But after meeting her, I can’t help but feel that she’d be a good match.

Help! Someone bring me back down to earth and rationality haha

Parrot owners aren't always rational!

No regrets at all adopting Flower. We haven't experienced anywhere near all four seasons together yet, but I know we'll work through whatever parrothood throws at us!

Glad things went well; let us know how things continue.
 
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At this point I’m leaning towards adopting her! She just might scream a ton and bite sometimes but if she’s as nice 90 percent of the time as she was when I met her, I think I’m sold.

I’ll be picking her up Friday! :D
 

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Congrats! How exciting! Rationality is something that we can debate, but that your heart is in the right place seems not debatable to me:). Happy that Sunshine is going to a loving home:)
 

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Sunshine is beautiful, glad the visit went well. You were definitely chosen, but wisely avoided a snap decision. Sleep on it and you'll know best in the morning!

You'll have plenty of support from fellow U2 parronts!
 

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