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Old 11-26-2018, 04:26 PM
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Question what do you wish you knew?

I'm planning and saving to adopt a Goffins cockatoo in 1-2 years... Not that long to wait for a lifelong companion, so, I figured, why not start asking questions now?

I'm currently trying to get more and more used to handling large parrots, being less nervous holding them, etc. Right now I have a gcc, who's beak barely compares to one of a cockatoo. I've been looking at my local bird place, stopping by, holding their g2 (i'll attach a photo)

the sign reads: "Jeffrey. I am 9 years old. I am shy at first but I love head scratches! I need lots of love and attention! $1,099"
, being more confident holding bigger birds. I've held their TAG, and their Patagonian Conure. I've held some macaws, and, 2 Queen of Bavaria Conures (one bit me and would n o t let go, but he didnt draw blood). I recently held someones caique and got my first 'real bite' from a bird (it drew blood... my gcc keeps biting the bite, too). I love on their nanday, who has a sign warning that he bites... well, he hasn't got me yet so let's hope my luck continues!


my question is, is there anything to warn me on, or anything you wish you knew before you got a cockatoo?
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Old 11-26-2018, 05:22 PM
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Re: what do you wish you knew?

I could tell you stories about Jonesy,the Goffin I adopted from a friend,after Smokey my TAG passed away lol,but it's rather long! I'll see if I can find the threads I did of him and re-post for you or give you a link so you can read.


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Re: what do you wish you knew?

OMG I want to cry. This poor creature is for sale? People freaking disgust me.

I hope you get all the answers from this lovely board. I would just rush there and rescue that baby like there was no tomorrow. I adopted my U2 Bianca without having ever had a bird before. I wish you all the best with your new friend!


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Old 11-26-2018, 05:33 PM
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Re: what do you wish you knew?

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OMG I want to cry. This poor creature is for sale? People freaking disgust me.

I hope you get all the answers from this lovely board. I would just rush there and rescue that baby like there was no tomorrow. I adopted my U2 Bianca without having ever had a bird before. I wish you all the best with your new friend!


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well...

the store works like this, they have some smaller birds, given to them by breeders (all disease tested etc)

all the bigger birds are ones they've taken in because people no longer wanted them. Jeffrey, in particular, was only bought 2 years prior, fully feathered and all! but... the woman who bought him didn't take him out of the cage at all, and he began plucking. They usually have all of the birds out on stands, but Jeffrey is absolutely terrified of them. I take him out sometime's and play, but he has many toys in his cage and people interact with him all of the time... I can tell you wholeheartedly that he's in good hands there (esp by the workers). About him being sold... well, it's like how rescues have an adoption fee. They can't give him for free.


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Re: what do you wish you knew?

LOL! I could write a book on the subject!

I've got a corella called Miss Rosetta Stone. She's the most hyperactive bird I've ever seen and, at the moment, things are going very badly between us.

I don't want to put you off, but despite Rosetta's problems, there are things I've found out about cockatoos that make me see why experienced bird handlers always give a loud warning to anyone thinking of getting one.

They have *endless* energy and an *endless* need for occupation! Imagine having a two-year-old that remained two forever. It's like that. 'Setta keeps me totally occupied in finding new and more intersting toys for her, in playing with her every single day so she can wear off some of her energy and in thinking about what to do next when it comes to training and socialising. It's a huge job!

For now, at least, 'Setta is completely fixated on me. She *cannot* be out of her cage unless she is on or near my person. That means I have to be available to her all the time, pretty much. Of course, I hope this will change, but it's not going to for a while.

When 'setta gets bored, she bellows. Now, you might think 'Oh, I'm fine with that', but I have to tell you, the cockatoovian bellow is loud enough to make your ears pop. Rosetta bellowed all the time when she first came. Thankfully, she's confined herself to a good half-hour in the morning and again in the evening (when the wild corellas are flying overhead). It's teeth-shattering and mind-bending! I got used to the shrieks of two Alexandrines to the point where I hardly notice them any more. 'Setta puts them to absolute shame. Our neighbours up on the corner can hear her and have commented that 'she's a bit loud'. That's three houses away!

There are two things cockies are famous for. One is that they're rather more susceptible to fatty tumours than other parrots. I was told early on that these fatty deposits are benign and are just a pain cosmetically. Then, my galah's fatty tumour turned to cancer, invaded his central nervous system and killed him! So fatty tumours aren't 'nothing'. They're 'something'. The other thing is that cockatoos are *far* more likely to self-mutilate than other birds. They can pluck their feathers until they're permanently bald and I have known of cockatoos that actually began picking at their own flesh until they made ulcers out of the wounds.

That's not to say *your* cockatoo will do those things, but any cockatoo *will* do those things unless you keep it happy and busy and occupied. That means a hefty daily commitment of time and effort. I'm retired and I have nothing *but* time. Still, the full-on needs of a crazy corella are hard to fill and I'm finding the going tough right now. I hope to be able to tell a different story in a few months, but only time will tell.

Bottom line: I would say cockatoos are really birds for the very experienced bird-handler, mostly because their psychology is so complicated.

If there's anything I've said here that's totally mad, I'm sure other members will chime in and disagree. At least, I hope they will.
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Re: what do you wish you knew?

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LOL! I could write a book on the subject!

I've got a corella called Miss Rosetta Stone. She's the most hyperactive bird I've ever seen and, at the moment, things are going very badly between us.

I don't want to put you off, but despite Rosetta's problems, there are things I've found out about cockatoos that make me see why experienced bird handlers always give a loud warning to anyone thinking of getting one.

They have *endless* energy and an *endless* need for occupation! Imagine having a two-year-old that remained two forever. It's like that. 'Setta keeps me totally occupied in finding new and more intersting toys for her, in playing with her every single day so she can wear off some of her energy and in thinking about what to do next when it comes to training and socialising. It's a huge job!

For now, at least, 'Setta is completely fixated on me. She *cannot* be out of her cage unless she is on or near my person. That means I have to be available to her all the time, pretty much. Of course, I hope this will change, but it's not going to for a while.

When 'setta gets bored, she bellows. Now, you might think 'Oh, I'm fine with that', but I have to tell you, the cockatoovian bellow is loud enough to make your ears pop. Rosetta bellowed all the time when she first came. Thankfully, she's confined herself to a good half-hour in the morning and again in the evening (when the wild corellas are flying overhead). It's teeth-shattering and mind-bending! I got used to the shrieks of two Alexandrines to the point where I hardly notice them any more. 'Setta puts them to absolute shame. Our neighbours up on the corner can hear her and have commented that 'she's a bit loud'. That's three houses away!

There are two things cockies are famous for. One is that they're rather more susceptible to fatty tumours than other parrots. I was told early on that these fatty deposits are benign and are just a pain cosmetically. Then, my galah's fatty tumour turned to cancer, invaded his central nervous system and killed him! So fatty tumours aren't 'nothing'. They're 'something'. The other thing is that cockatoos are *far* more likely to self-mutilate than other birds. They can pluck their feathers until they're permanently bald and I have known of cockatoos that actually began picking at their own flesh until they made ulcers out of the wounds.

That's not to say *your* cockatoo will do those things, but any cockatoo *will* do those things unless you keep it happy and busy and occupied. That means a hefty daily commitment of time and effort. I'm retired and I have nothing *but* time. Still, the full-on needs of a crazy corella are hard to fill and I'm finding the going tough right now. I hope to be able to tell a different story in a few months, but only time will tell.

Bottom line: I would say cockatoos are really birds for the very experienced bird-handler, mostly because their psychology is so complicated.

If there's anything I've said here that's totally mad, I'm sure other members will chime in and disagree. At least, I hope they will.
i mean, im not a very 'experiended' bird handler but, i have had birds since i was around six or seven, but i have yet to have a bird with a bigger beak than my green cheek. i understand, though. i have been researching cockatoos for about two years now, and learning as much as i can.
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Re: what do you wish you knew?

Yeah, sorry about that. I don't mean to sound totally negative, but I'm having a bad time with my girl right now and that's colouring my feelings. I thought it wouldn't hurt for you to hear the down-side as well as the positives, y'know?

I'm quite sure you can give that poor bird a more loving home than the one he's in.
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OMG I want to cry. This poor creature is for sale? People freaking disgust me.



I hope you get all the answers from this lovely board. I would just rush there and rescue that baby like there was no tomorrow. I adopted my U2 Bianca without having ever had a bird before. I wish you all the best with your new friend!





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well...



the store works like this, they have some smaller birds, given to them by breeders (all disease tested etc)



all the bigger birds are ones they've taken in because people no longer wanted them. Jeffrey, in particular, was only bought 2 years prior, fully feathered and all! but... the woman who bought him didn't take him out of the cage at all, and he began plucking. They usually have all of the birds out on stands, but Jeffrey is absolutely terrified of them. I take him out sometime's and play, but he has many toys in his cage and people interact with him all of the time... I can tell you wholeheartedly that he's in good hands there (esp by the workers). About him being sold... well, it's like how rescues have an adoption fee. They can't give him for free.





I attached some more photos of him.


He looks adorable! You never know with cockatoos. Mine is tame, sweet and quiet even though she was severely abused and neglected in the past. But she’s also 40yo so age might be what makes her so easy going.


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Re: what do you wish you knew?

I love my U2 DEARLY..BUT... I think you are very wise to consider the complications/challenges/downfalls VERY FAR in advance.

Cockatoos are unlike any other bird. Betrisher is correct in what she said.

Granted I have an adopted Umbrella, but for me, it is harder than having a toddler or any other bird. I love my Umbrella to death, but having been a special education teacher and having had experience with parrots, I still was not prepared for mine (even though I spent loads of time on MYTOOS.COM etc etc).

They are VERY VERY VERY unique and very very very challenging.

They are also very very very loving (but that is part of the problem).
I am not saying it can't be done. Mine is very "well-adjusted" according to 3 vets and other bird owners...the thing is, I will never have a life again (despite the fact that mine is more independent than many). So, she is semi-happy and I am obsessed with keeping her that way while maintaining boundaries (this means she occupies 100% of my free-time and even time that isn't free).

It is really hard to articulate in words, as I read horror stories etc and still had no idea what it would be like to live with one (in many good ways and bad ways). I have no real horror stories to tell, but the effort it has taken to keep it that way is draining.


Cockatoos are the most re-homed of all birds and that is because they are VERY complicated and not well-suited for captivity.

I sound negative because there are positives to any parrot, but the negatives are often what cause these birds to be re-homed over and over and that is SUPER hard on them.

Keep in mind that with any cockatoo, the disposition your see in a stimulating environment like a pet shop or a rescue (even caged) will be TOTTTTTTALLLLLLYYY different than their reaction to a typical home.

I LOVE my bird...just saying...I wish I knew what I know now, and even though I read about it, it was like reading about the pain of labor...You don't really get it until you feel it lol.

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Re: what do you wish you knew?

The things I wish I'd known before bird ownership...that they waje up at the crack of dawn and are the loudest then, I haven't slept in , in forever though black out blinds and cage covers could help, that it is very difficult to find a bird sitter like when I spent weeks in the hospital, or for regular folks when they go on vacation. People are scared of them, and don't understand the complexity of taking care of them. They want to scream when I am on the phone...I have them out and occupied only to discover they are destroying something! Significant others don't understand or are fearful, or are seen as the rival and attacked, or don't want to accommodate the special needs of Parrots. I had to kick my mom and dad out of the house when they came a thousand miles to visit me because my dad wanted to cook with Teflon, and thought birds are dirty and had mixed an almost pure bleach solution the fumes were gagging me, to clean the floor. They would not listen to me about safety and since my birds life were on the line I had to demand they leave and stay in a hotel!!! That when recently I had the flu, I could not get them to quit screaming because I couldn't get them out if the cage I was really that sick. I just wanted a few hours to hang over the toliot or laying down. I tried treats and covering their cages to no avail...but on the good side I never knew how much I would love them, how much they would make me laugh, how so very smart they are, how they can make a purr sound when happy and snuggling...
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