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Old 07-19-2019, 11:36 AM
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The way I see it, just because nothing bad has happened yet doesn't mean it will not in the future. There could be long term effects on the bird just like how there could be long term effects on him. By the time it's caught, it could be too late. Yes, 20 years is a long time, but it could continue to build over the next 40 years or so. If it can have effects on a human, imagine what it could do to a bird which are much smaller with a much more delicate respiratory system.


Regardless, I hope you can convince them Susan. My only advice is there is only so much you can do. If he doesn't want to do it himself and he's put his foot down, there's little you can do to change it. He needs to want help.
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Right. It is frustrating knowing what should be happening, and not being able to do much. I figure what I can do for my friend is learn and try to persuade.

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I reckon that if you've tried all the arguments above, then your friend is indeed in a pretty sad place and his problem is bigger than denial that anything's wrong with a bird being kept unhygienically.

Regarding the bird, it may be alive and not ill at the moment, but if it had the choice it would be flying free and able to get away from its most recent droppings, never mind the old and dried ones (which can be more harmful). Your friend has denied his bird the chance to live a healthy life free from pathogens and plain old nasty dirt. Who would keep any living creature in a place where its droppings are everywhere? That's just abuse and neglect. If it were a child, the authorities would have it removed. Because it's a bird, it must stay and suffer, willy-nilly, whatever your friend subjects it to. Do feel free to print out my post and show it to him. If he's not in a position to do better for the poor bird, then he should seek help for his depression so he *can*.

I have every sympathy for someone who has sunk so low, but it's a question of the bird's life and welfare and the bird didn't ask to be shut in this nasty environment and has no voice to complain. He should seriously think of giving it to someone who can at least give it a healthy, pleasant place to live.
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I wouldn't describe the situation like that. The house has bird droppings, so night time environment isn't ideal, but during the day the bird is wherever he is, mostly outdoors and seems like a very happy bird. It is a very well cared for bird except for hygiene in the house. Other than hygiene issues, I bet that he is among the top level people for how he cares for his bird. It's not depression, just ingrained bad habits, like a person with bad personal hygiene. Some people have no housekeeping skills. I have seen way worse houses than his with little kids. I would say that it is not a healthy environment, but not child abuse level at all.

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