Can Liang Zai go outdoors with wings not clipped?

Robert Gift

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Do I risk that he will come back to me if he flies off?

Or should I get him clipped so that he can fly in our house but not efficiently outside.

Thank you.

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Nakiska

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Well, seeing as I'm a person who lost her very very VERY loved Cockatiel 5 years ago due to an unfortunate event with unclipped wings. If you are going to take your baby outside, I error on the side of caution and clip..they'll grow back and if something unexplainable and unfortunate DOES happen you may still have your bird. Heck, I'd clip AND harness :D

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I lost a clipped sun conure a few months ago. Even with clipped wings, the wind can actually give them enough lift to climb a tree and take off. I'd be safe and harness him.
 
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Robert Gift

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Thank you, all.

What is a harness?
Would he accept it?
Co$t?

If it's a big trauma, I'll just leave him inside.

The previous owner clipped his wings before we picked him up.
I used to place him in our tree and he'd stay there.

A few times he flew up into higher branches, but as a tophat and tailed chimney sweep, I climed up and stretched out and extended my two fingers.
He walked toward me on the branch and onto my fingers and I set him on my shoulder as I climbedown.

But since last summer his feathers have grown and he likely istronger and more fit from flying in our house.

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Adz

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Not sure why you say a clipped bird can fly. Loco can't fly, he's hopeless! Sure he can drift down, but fly? No way.

Perhaps as they grow older and wing muscles develop more they can fly with clipped wings? When I got loco he was badly clipped as was full flight. I had him fixed up and now he can glide down to the ground and jump a bit but can't fly at all.
 

MikeyTN

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Not sure why you say a clipped bird can fly. Loco can't fly, he's hopeless! Sure he can drift down, but fly? No way.

Perhaps as they grow older and wing muscles develop more they can fly with clipped wings? When I got loco he was badly clipped as was full flight. I had him fixed up and now he can glide down to the ground and jump a bit but can't fly at all.

It all depends on how they were clipped. There's way you can clip without letting them the ability to even glide. If you just clip the primary feathers, they're able to glide and with a high wind, they can still take off!!!

I'm all for the harness! I don't like to clip my birds, I won't if I don't have to. The only time I ever clip is during training, but even then it depends on the individual bird. Some birds are so easy to train, I never even had to clip.
 
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Robert Gift

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Whenever Liang Zai flew up into a tree I was able to climb up and get to him and bring him down.

Just wondering if he would ever fly back to me on his own.
He likes to perch on my wife'shoulder or mine.
He will stay on our shoulders, apparently content, for an hour as we do housework, wash dishes, prepare food, etc. (He is on my shoulder sleeping as I type this.)

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suebee

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he might? and he might not, it could be as easy as him flyin up an losing sight of you an getting lost, and such a pampered bird that liang zai is, he will not enjoy roughing it!

but if he is content and happy for you to retrieve him, when he lands clip his wings, but let vet know how much or little flight you want laing zai to be able to have, but when he is clipped he might not like not being able to fly about the house??

i'd like nut clipped for such a reason over summer so she can enjoy the summer sun with us, but none of the vets near me will entertain clipping a bird, so we just drag her main cage out with us!
 

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Not sure why you say a clipped bird can fly. Loco can't fly, he's hopeless! Sure he can drift down, but fly? No way.

Perhaps as they grow older and wing muscles develop more they can fly with clipped wings? When I got loco he was badly clipped as was full flight. I had him fixed up and now he can glide down to the ground and jump a bit but can't fly at all.

In high wind they should be able to glide well enough to present the illusion of flight regaurdless of clipping.
 

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