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Old 08-08-2011, 09:23 PM
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Biting help

So I have had Rio for a little under 2 weeks and he won't stop biting. I know they are nippy birds but this is getting ridiculous. Every time I open the door I put my finger up and he bites pretty hard but I keep trying to get him to step up and he keeps biting. When I finally get him out you can't really touch him because he will bite you. He likes to sit on the towel bar in the bathroom but when you try to get him he bites you. Put him on his cage and he bites. Etc, Etc, Etc. He pretty much bites everyone that touches him. He has drawn blood twice and now I just don't even want to let him out. Is there anything I can do to stop this?
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Old 08-08-2011, 10:11 PM
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Re: Biting help

How old is he? It seems everyone who has a GCC over at Talk Parrots is going through a molt right now. It makes them cranky and irritable. Does he have any pin feathers on his head or cheeks? If so, he is molting also.
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Old 08-08-2011, 10:16 PM
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Re: Biting help

He will be 4 months on august 19th. I don't see any pin feathers on him.
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Old 08-09-2011, 06:36 AM
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Re: Biting help

Instead of sticking your hand into the cage to get him to step up, try just opening the cage and letting him come out when ready. Alex used to bite when I went near his cage, and it took me awhile to figure out it was because he felt threatened my me invading his home. We have an understanding now, my hands only go in the cage to change food/water and toys. I never try to force him out of the cage, even my making him step up on my hand or using a stick. When I open the door, if he wants out he comes to me. The cage is his safe, secure place, and I think every bird needs to know they have a safe spot. Some birds don't mind their safe spots being invaded by you, some do.

That was just our experience, might be worth a shot
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Re: Biting help

That's interesting. I didn't know other people birds were going through a molt right now. Gizmo has been going through the first molt since I've had him. Maybe thats why he's been more growly lately. I've had some of the same problem as you 2many. The way I look at it, I'm the boss. He isn't going to get away with biting me just cause he feels like it. At several peoples advice on here, I either tip him onto the floor when he bites, Or I grab his beak and hold it firmly but not so it hurts him until he stops moving his beak while saying NO firmly to him. He doesn't usually bite when I get him out of his cage, but he does bite sometimes when I put him up. When he doesn't bite, I praise him loudly.
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Old 08-09-2011, 08:23 AM
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Re: Biting help

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So I have had Rio for a little under 2 weeks and he won't stop biting. I know they are nippy birds but this is getting ridiculous. Every time I open the door I put my finger up and he bites pretty hard but I keep trying to get him to step up and he keeps biting. When I finally get him out you can't really touch him because he will bite you. He likes to sit on the towel bar in the bathroom but when you try to get him he bites you. Put him on his cage and he bites. Etc, Etc, Etc. He pretty much bites everyone that touches him. He has drawn blood twice and now I just don't even want to let him out. Is there anything I can do to stop this?
This is the problem. You're not respectful of his decision. He's telling you "No" but you keep forcing him. Birds can't speak, so you have to pay attention to their body language. He will bite as last resort, when all other ques go ignored.

Be patient and learn to respect your bird's free will. Reinforce him verbally or with a treat when he does decide (on his own terms) to come out of his cage, so that he will be more likely to do it again. Do not force him to do anything he does not want to do, and the biting will diminish drastically.
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So I have had Rio for a little under 2 weeks and he won't stop biting. I know they are nippy birds but this is getting ridiculous. Every time I open the door I put my finger up and he bites pretty hard but I keep trying to get him to step up and he keeps biting. When I finally get him out you can't really touch him because he will bite you. He likes to sit on the towel bar in the bathroom but when you try to get him he bites you. Put him on his cage and he bites. Etc, Etc, Etc. He pretty much bites everyone that touches him. He has drawn blood twice and now I just don't even want to let him out. Is there anything I can do to stop this?
This is the problem. You're not respectful of his decision. He's telling you "No" but you keep forcing him. Birds can't speak, so you have to pay attention to their body language. He will bite as last resort, when all other ques go ignored.

Be patient and learn to respect your bird's free will. Reinforce him verbally or with a treat when he does decide (on his own terms) to come out of his cage, so that he will be more likely to do it again. Do not force him to do anything he does not want to do, and the biting will diminish drastically.

Well if he won't step up he can't come out of his cage then. I have to take him to his playstand because my dogs would most likely eat him if he came out on his own.
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Old 08-09-2011, 01:05 PM
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Re: Biting help

My lilacs use to do that when I first got thim. I understand giving him free will but he has to step up without the bite. Also, he needs to learn. You can't start any training until he steps up and out of the cage.

If he has been taught to step up by the breeder but refuses to do so with you, try using both hands. I give a soft finger snap with one hand above the head and hold it there while giving the step up comand with the other hand. Basicaly one hand above one below. It should distract him long enough. It takes time. Once he's out of the cage take him away from it. It shouldn't be in view while training since he shows agression over it. If he still attacks you introduce a wooden perch in place of your hand until he calms down with the bitting. Always praise after a sign of progress and after the session. He's still young don't give up.

This worked for me with my U2 and 2 lilac amazons but failed with my blue front and scarlet macaw. Their wills are as hard as their bites

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Re: Biting help

Other than bitig, how does Rio interact with you? Specifically, is he afraid of you? If you leave his cage door open and do not force him to come out, will he eventually come to you? Will he sit on your arm for a prolonged period of time? Does he appear happy to see you when you approach his cage? He might be biting you because he is afraid of you and does not trust you yet, or biting you could be a negative way he has chosen to interact with you. I think you should determine if it is trust issue or a negative interaction issue first, then proceed from there.
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Re: Biting help

When I walk by his cage he is right at the door. When I open the door he sticks his head out and tries to crawl out. He will sit on my hand and loves being on my shoulder but I don't let him on my shoulder because I can never get him off (he gets tangled in my hair lol).
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